Dubstepforum.com

and mind u i say plenty of parallel distortion.. yet i mean distorting subtly with different plugins.. and mostly have the original signal playbacking back rather than the distortion. i do this with bass mainly, drums etc. yes it can take long sometimes comparing sounds and getting it crystal clear at first, but with practice it becomes easier.

This thread is starting to creep me out

Now that I listen to all this, Skrillex and Feed me DO sound very similar. Not just they are on the same label and probably learned a thing or two similar, but it sounds almost EXACTLY the same. There's no way those processed sounds with so many effects can sound so close UNLESS the two are working together? idk tho...

And listening to his tracks, I am starting to notice more "vocal bass" I should say. It sounds like he's just warping the shiit outta some words and makin it sound grungy

lolol at the Flawless Victory This very well may be how Skrillex goes about making his tunes.

So you mean this whole time people have just simply been overlooking his techniques?

Ha, you think good friends like Skrillex and Feed Me won't share producing secrets?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Datsik make a Skrillex-like bassline.

Moody Strings wrote:Ha, you think good friends like Skrillex and Feed Me won't share producing secrets?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Datsik make a Skrillex-like bassline.

haha yes, i'm sure they do. But there has to be a limit to that. Especially with such unique sounds that almost no one on the internet has acurately been able to imitate. I mean yea, there's a few that can kind of pull off the same idea and sond SIMILAR to Skrillex basslines, but none as good as feed me's. They probably help eachother out to an extent, but to have the EXACT same sounds? no way...

Blastfome wrote:

Moody Strings wrote:Ha, you think good friends like Skrillex and Feed Me won't share producing secrets?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Datsik make a Skrillex-like bassline.

haha yes, i'm sure they do. But there has to be a limit to that. Especially with such unique sounds that almost no one on the internet has acurately been able to imitate. I mean yea, there's a few that can kind of pull off the same idea and sond SIMILAR to Skrillex basslines, but none as good as feed me's. They probably help eachother out to an extent, but to have the EXACT same sounds? no way...

Oh no, that's what I meant. Skrillex is obviously the mastermind behind the sound engineering in Mua5trap; but Feed Me was first, so I'm not so sure. There is obviously a lot of help and advice going on behind the scenes. I don't mind, I love Skrillex's and Feed Me's work.

paravrais wrote:

RandoRando wrote:

paravrais wrote: 2: Skrillex probably doesn't even do most of his own production.

now thats just straight hatin

It's a well known rumour. Deadmau5 is thought to get a "helping hand" by professional producers and mixing engineers and considering Skrillex is signed to his label and their production sounds *exactly* the same I'd say it was a safe bet that it's the same guy making the brunt of both their tracks behind the scenes.

Yeah that sounds like a load of shit. Look up "fuck my life" on sound loud. Thats deadmau5 dubstep page. And they all suck ass. And he advertises it as "this is deadmau5 and these are my dubstep tracks but I know I suck at them." and before skrillex was even skrillex he was dabbling around in experimental electronic music. Look up "turmoil- sonny Moore". Not yellin at you paravrais, just sayin that sounds like a rumor some skrillex hater made up and then it spread like wildfire, just like every other peice of news about him.

I listen to a ton of Feed Me and Skrillex and I honestly don't think they sound that similar.

Mannyyyyy wrote:its kind of obvious its his voice that bass sound. in equinox when hes doing hia little vocal chops you hear the growls saying the same exact thing. mostly he just fx'ed his voice to make a bass.

After listening to equinox I also noticed this. His basses fucking talk in that song. It goes like this .. (I'm only doing the talking basses) Innnyenng... Yyyoeoeeeeng... Innyenng ......yeeeeeyeyeeng....Mmmissshhh Mawwwsshh. And so on. I am starting to think he records his voice. Pitches it down and adds effects and layers a s
Similar FM8 bass over it.

Sine69 wrote:I listen to a ton of Feed Me and Skrillex and I honestly don't think they sound that similar.

I have to agree, Feed Me's stuff sounds much more "electro-y" and less heavy. I doubt the two having been working together or copying each other for long as both of them were pushing out similar music before they signed to mau5trap, check Feed Me's releases on Noisia's Vision label and Skrillex's "pre-Skrillex" (lolol) releases.

RandoRando wrote:

Mannyyyyy wrote:its kind of obvious its his voice that bass sound. in equinox when hes doing hia little vocal chops you hear the growls saying the same exact thing. mostly he just fx'ed his voice to make a bass.

After listening to equinox I also noticed this. His basses fucking talk in that song. It goes like this .. (I'm only doing the talking basses) Innnyenng... Yyyoeoeeeeng... Innyenng ......yeeeeeyeyeeng....Mmmissshhh Mawwwsshh. And so on. I am starting to think he records his voice. Pitches it down and adds effects and layers a s
Similar FM8 bass over it.

This wouldn't surprise me, I've seen it mentioned before in either some shitty interview or some obscure forum post somewhere, and since I read it seems quite obvious.

GV1 wrote: Stop making shit harder than it is. KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid! 99.9% of dubstep producers are not mathematicians or computer scientists (unless you're GV1). The majority of young dubstep producers twiddle knobs and don't have a clue what there twiddling aside from ADSR and filters.

This my friend, is where you are wrong. Most good producers do know what they're doing, and have a large amount of knowledge on how sound design works. Myself , I spend alot of time reading up on and experimenting with sound, and tbh it's given me quite some insight on those 'knobs' (I guess what you are referring to is the nature of the waveforms and effect procesing) and how they work/what you can and cannot do to sound , and it's really helped me alot in my production.

not surprised, its kinda standard procedure for alot of people.

reignz wrote:

GV1 wrote: Stop making shit harder than it is. KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid! 99.9% of dubstep producers are not mathematicians or computer scientists (unless you're GV1). The majority of young dubstep producers twiddle knobs and don't have a clue what there twiddling aside from ADSR and filters.

This my friend, is where you are wrong. Most good producers do know what they're doing, and have a large amount of knowledge on how sound design works. Myself , I spend alot of time reading up on and experimenting with sound, and tbh it's given me quite some insight on those 'knobs' (I guess what you are referring to is the nature of the waveforms and effect procesing) and how they work/what you can and cannot do to sound , and it's really helped me alot in my production.

this is also true but i do know some producers who do not have any idea on what they are doing well not some only 1 and he is a friend at my school though he doesn't make dubstep and he is signed on a quality label. he had no idea what subtractive synthesis is he was dumbfounded at the question like "subtractive like some sort of math problem?"

paravrais wrote:1: Resampling is over rated.

That's just wrong. Seriously.
Perhaps you have no use for it in your tunes yet or you're doing it wrong ?

A quick example just to prove my point :
Synth bass sound
After resampling
If you think that's overrated and you can achieve that without resampling, then please teach me

daft tnuc wrote:

paravrais wrote:1: Resampling is over rated.

That's just wrong. Seriously.
Perhaps you have no use for it in your tunes yet or you're doing it wrong ?

A quick example just to prove my point :
Synth bass sound
After resampling
If you think that's overrated and you can achieve that without resampling, then please teach me

Nice example! What effects did you put on it to make it "sweep" like that?
Oh, and resampling is not overrated. It's underrated, u can use it on anything.

blinkesko wrote:

daft tnuc wrote:

paravrais wrote:1: Resampling is over rated.

That's just wrong. Seriously.
Perhaps you have no use for it in your tunes yet or you're doing it wrong ?

A quick example just to prove my point :
Synth bass sound
After resampling
If you think that's overrated and you can achieve that without resampling, then please teach me

Nice example! What effects did you put on it to make it "sweep" like that?
Oh, and resampling is not overrated. It's underrated, u can use it on anything.

Not underrated. No.

blinkesko wrote:Nice example! What effects did you put on it to make it "sweep" like that?

Good ol' LP filtering with post-filter distortion.

blinkesko wrote:Oh, and resampling is not overrated. It's underrated, u can use it on anything.

Absolutely!

I've listened to most of Shrillex's tracks over the past couple of days. Previous to this thread I'd only heard about 5 tracks in my friends car, and instantly I could hear what he was doing because it's something I do with the MPC's to trigger the sounds. The thread was more geared towards resampling, and then triggering the sounds with pads. After watching his videos I also see he uses an MPD like device (might be an MPD 24).

I didn't mean to say every top producer has no idea what they are doing, but in the underground there are a lot of young producers that get signed because there initial tracks are good and they show consistancy at the start, but slowly they start to drop off because they can't compete with their own productions. Probably why Shrill sounds like Feed Me because he gets help on the productions.

I know when I'm producing with someone, because I'm the engineer and I spend most of my time on the track it tends to sound like the stuff I do. Even though the other people work on the track it still has my feel.

I'll put up a video on Youtube on using Access Virus, Machine and resampled bass sounds. Shit can sound very interesting when you are punching pads rather than a keyboard keys.

But, Broken Note and such like have been producing that sampled choppy sound way before the new school producers appeared on the scene.

Edit: I'm talking about his Dubstep here. I'm not a fan of his electro. It's far to simple for my liking.

GV1 wrote:After watching his videos I also see he uses an MPD like device (might be an MPD 24).

It's actually an M-Audio Trigger Finger

Gurnumsbug wrote:

GV1 wrote:After watching his videos I also see he uses an MPD like device (might be an MPD 24).

It's actually an M-Audio Trigger Finger

His signature equipment

Moody Strings wrote:

Gurnumsbug wrote:

GV1 wrote:After watching his videos I also see he uses an MPD like device (might be an MPD 24).

It's actually an M-Audio Trigger Finger

His signature equipment

I will admit when I first got into electronic music I remember seeing him use it(fan of his for a long time) and wanted one for myself
But I just settled for an Oxygen 49 and have had tons of use for it recently

Damn, Now I can't stop listening to that Feed Me track Cloudburn (feat. Tasha Baxter) It's so catchy