This is exactly how americans view soccer/football

[sigbowls]

it mostly the mexicans that play soccer here

[pkay]

but this is how most of us view americans so it really doesnt matter.

That's cool... we're talking about the fundamentals of the sports, not the people residing in certain countries.

Tho kinda funny you're getting mad and possessive about a sport your country isnt very good at

show me where i got mad and possessive.

the fact of the matter is that in america the culture has made things so in order to be entertaining they have to be in your face, loud, super stimulating and exaggerated. Its because americans always want more and more and cant sit and be patient to watch a football game. They want to see a point be scored every 20 seconds so they dont get bored and their 3 second attention span doesnt run out. This can be seen with american dubstep vs uk style dubstep, american sports vs european sports, the american "the office" vs the UK one. everything in america has to be bloated and overdone.

So what you're admitting is that you've never been to the US?

You're basically saying because we're different we're bad. Pretty ignorant world view. Then again you don't sound like someone who is generally looking to absorb other cultures.

I wasn't born in the US but I live here. Have spent plenty of time abroad. There are things that are great about soccer, things that are great about gridiron......... regardless the only people generally citing the fans as a problem are ignorant folks who are narrow minded and feel threatened by change in the world.

The adults in this thread are talking about sports. You can take that teenage america sux shit back to a skrillex thread and talk to your fellow 16 year olds about who has the filthier basslines.

[.onelove.]

Youre being too harsh on American people there, christ they're not a different species.

But in principle I agree, but it's more to do with marketing. Big and brash, over the top non-stop action is obviously easier to draw in casual support. If the rules of football weren't so institutionalised I'd have no doubt FIFA would have made every attempt to bring in new 'exciting' gimmicks to make it more fast-paced.

I mean, look at cricket. Twenty20 is massive now, more so than test cricket. All about the short-term big hitting scores.

Unfortunately while it makes it more of an attractive event, it ultimately dilutes and lessens it IMO. Like I mentioned earlier, if goalposts were made bigger or something equally as ridiculous to encourage more goals, you wouldn't get that roar + sheer elation when one goes in.

I also disagree with the chap arguing there's no momentum or 'rallies' in football. If a teams chasing a goal in the last 20 minutes, there is a massive build up of emotion that doesn't necessarily require a goal. Sustained relentless pressure where the entire team is ploughing forward is one of the most exhilarating aspects of the game.

Also, a massive fucking LOL at the bloke suggesting a basket is harder than a goal. Christ almighty.

[.onelove.]

it mostly the mexicans that play soccer here

Really? What, not other immigrants as well? Football is pretty unanimously the number one global sport. I'm struggling to think of any country that lacks a professional league of sorts.

[pkay]

Youre being too harsh on American people there, christ they're not a different species.

But in principle I agree, but it's more to do with marketing. Big and brash, over the top non-stop action is obviously easier to draw in casual support. If the rules of football weren't so institutionalised I'd have no doubt FIFA would have made every attempt to bring in new 'exciting' gimmicks to make it more fast-paced.

I mean, look at cricket. Twenty20 is massive now, more so than test cricket. All about the short-term big hitting scores.

Unfortunately while it makes it more of an attractive event, it ultimately dilutes and lessens it IMO. Like I mentioned earlier, if goalposts were made bigger or something equally as ridiculous to encourage more goals, you wouldn't get that roar + sheer elation when one goes in.

I also disagree with the chap arguing there's no momentum or 'rallies' in football. If a teams chasing a goal in the last 20 minutes, there is a massive build up of emotion that doesn't necessarily require a goal. Sustained relentless pressure where the entire team is ploughing forward is one of the most exhilarating aspects of the game.

Also, a massive fucking LOL at the bloke suggesting a basket is harder than a goal. Christ almighty.

As someone who loves the NBA I'd gather making a goal is hard simply based on the fact that it is contested at the point of scoring and at the point of shot, where as a basketball shot is only contested at the point of initial shot.... though I think a lot of people don't realize how far a regulation three pointer is in the NBA as most european leagues go by the NCAA line.

[pkay]

it mostly the mexicans that play soccer here

Really? What, not other immigrants as well? Football is pretty unanimously the number one global sport. I'm struggling to think of any country that lacks a professional league of sorts.

it comes back to our biggest and best athletes play gridiron. Soccer in the US is generally played by smaller/shorter kids. If you're over 6 foot tall by the time you're 14 or 15 you're playing either gridiron or basketball due to size.

All the athletes who are generally great all around athletes will play basketball/football and occassionally baseball.


In most other parts of the world the best all around athletes take up football

[deadly_habit]

bunch of pussies
real men play lacrosse

[.onelove.]

Equestrian Dressage is essentially the manliest of manly men's sports.

[pkay]

bunch of pussies
real men play lacrosse

have you seen this hidden ball trick?

[firky]

I thought it was quite funny.

[firky]

people getting offended on behalf of football on this thread is funnier though,

[pkay]

agreed.... a week before someone else made a full field lacrosse shot... forgot what team it was. saw it on deadspin

[pkay]

given this past world cup neither US nor england should be too invested in football as both our countries suck fairly bad

[NilsFG]

bunch of pussies
real men play lacrosse

A real man hunts other people he has set free in his 500 acre private land.
Other real men survive.

[sigbowls]

real men watch cock fights

[DRTY]

I don't follow football, but I swear someone told me fairly recently diving is now penalizeable? (also is that a word, if not it should be)

[wormcode]

Summed up my thoughts pretty well 11 years ago
(Intro from Baseketball. Underrated David Zucker/Matt Stone/Trey Parker film)

[therzbm]

[pkay]

i hate the advertising argument.... soccer players run around with adverts all over their body and the fields pasted with billboards.... All in all you're just as exposed to advertising in either sport

also lol @ implying anything about intelligence considering 99% of NFL players have at least 3 years of college and 70%+ have college degrees. One of the perks of requiring your players to spend 3 _ years in school after graduating.



Anywho..... who says you have to enjoy one single sport? If you respect great athletes you can find something awesome in virtually any sport

[Duffman]