What's in a name? Being under-appreciated.

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by mIrReN » Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:42 pm

I thought it was ampje and that would've made sense in Dutch :/ only saw last week @ ustream that it was apmje :/
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by aeolho » Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:50 pm

@sd5
you can´t be serious with that...smoked too much? :dunce:
johney wrote: don't get me wrong, i love your tunes, but... how the hell are you supposed to say it? :P
i won´t get you wrong, i know it´s a bit different, so i´m not going to tell anyone it´s easy ;)
well, i guess you could say "a - o - low" but pronounce the "a" like an english "a", or instead use a german "e"...

written in the phonetic alphabet i would say it looks like this:
[´eo:lho:]

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by clubroot » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:20 pm

sd5 wrote:SDB? hey brother.

yeah I always think: cojerdubnuts

others who did themselves a disservice with ugly names imo:
cixxxj
actraiser
mutegx
morphamish
asusu
I don't quite know how you could say they've done themselves a disservice :? '? Actraiser for one makes fucking heavy tunes so what does a name matter?

See I don't particulaly like the name I chose 4 years ago, but I was in a rush and It was available and different (plus I TRY to make up for the shit name with good music). Yeah I could of chosen some predicable cliche (which usually involves putting an A or an I on the end of a single syllable) but its been done.


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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by mIrReN » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:27 pm

1. Clubroot ain't a bad name
2. You've done more then make up for it djeeez :Q:
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by syrup » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:25 pm

aeolho wrote:@sd5
you can´t be serious with that...smoked too much? :dunce:
johney wrote: don't get me wrong, i love your tunes, but... how the hell are you supposed to say it? :P
i won´t get you wrong, i know it´s a bit different, so i´m not going to tell anyone it´s easy ;)
well, i guess you could say "a - o - low" but pronounce the "a" like an english "a", or instead use a german "e"...

written in the phonetic alphabet i would say it looks like this:
[´eo:lho:]
Actually, when i tried to pronounce it i ended with something like 'hello' with a really horrid accent :lol:
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by Gewze » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:35 pm

I HATE being called ''Gweez'' G and W have an E in between them.

for those that haven't figured it out its goose but with a ooze sound...Gooze.

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by nousd » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:38 pm

yu mean like apple gewze?
a few posters have thought I'm having a shot at them or friends
I'm actually trying to promote the exploration of the music of producers whose name doesn't immediately appeal
exactly like the Shreddex & V.I.V.E.K. examples

but I've gotta admit that I am so more prepared to listen to someone with a cool name
call me shallow but it's like the phoenetic equivalent of lasagne vs boiled brussel sprouts...both good
but one gets the juices of expectation flowing.
(notice I'm not saying which, cos in the end it's a matter of taste & we have some avowed cabbage-lovers on here)

like Be-1ne defending the name Actraiser
(& I deliberately mentioned that name cos I love his tunes & mixes)
so I'll explain why that name doesn't resonate with me:

first, it seems visually unbalanced & of awkward length,
whether spelt with a capital, in which case it's front heavy
or lowercase, when it becomes constrained vertically.
Contrast with Artwork or artwork which is marginally better

second, it's sounding is strong at first with Act
but then trails off for too long with raiser
in contrast with the shorter Actress

third, the disjunction of what looks like & sounds like two component words
act + raiser
to act ... be active & positive...yes
or an act...as in a performance...or a pretence?
then raiser...someone who raises...positive too
but, together, do they mean someone who is raising an act?
not a strong idea imo.

four
(I know I'm micro-analysing this & the next bit could be hurtful but I'm hoping it's useful)
the lack of depth, or humour, or twist
&, most importantly, for the producer's benefit,
lack of energy & power.
i.e. the word actraiser doesn't induce in me an emotional response like actraiser's dubstep can.
without the nomen sharply signifying the creative impetus
my identification with it's will is fraught.

Which is fine if that is the intention of the person behind it,
like, say, they themselves want to stay detached from what they're making
but that, in turn, can suggest lack of confidence or diffidence
relying on rare listener impartiality to probe beyond a shy persona.
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by Be-1ne » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:20 pm

sd5 wrote:like Be-1ne defending the name Actraiser
(& I deliberately mentioned that name cos I love his tunes & mixes)
With this being the internet and it very easy to mis-judge what someone writes, this is in no way a defensive post in relation to your comment. I have merely highlight this bit of text as a way to continue this discussion.

When I said I thought Actraiser (as the name is being referenced, for example) was a cool name. I didn't mean to appear to be leaping in in a defensive way. I quiet literally think it is a really good name. I find this subject quiet an interesting topic and have often wondered how many people have passed up on my music due to my artistic name or that of my label. I have often considered dropping the name, but as it is something I have used for many many years it seems a bit silly to discard it.
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by butter_man » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:29 am

im not gettin a lot of love with this name. shall I bring the butter and man together to make butterman or just scrap it together and call myself gaybrush??

other names considererd: skhriddious p, lemon bank, patch>save, mortl, buffer man and lik mubbles. any good?
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by wizeguy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:58 am

haha Butterman is a sick name
generally i dont care what someones name is if their music is good i will remember it

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by butter_man » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:08 am

wizeguy wrote:haha Butterman is a sick name
generally i dont care what someones name is if their music is good i will remember it
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by Lectric » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:25 am

im quite content with my name :)

i hate shreddex, reminds me of shreddies cereal. also phaeleh gets on my nerves
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by nousd » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:43 am

johney wrote:
aeolho wrote:@sd5
you can´t be serious with that...smoked too much? :dunce:
johney wrote: don't get me wrong, i love your tunes, but... how the hell are you supposed to say it? :P
i won´t get you wrong, i know it´s a bit different, so i´m not going to tell anyone it´s easy ;)
well, i guess you could say "a - o - low" but pronounce the "a" like an english "a", or instead use a german "e"...

written in the phonetic alphabet i would say it looks like this:
[´eo:lho:]
Actually, when i tried to pronounce it i ended with something like 'hello' with a really horrid accent :lol:
;-) half serious,
cos I don't know how you derived what I'm now eidetically hearing as halo
I can only try to clarify in my own mind what you are saying about yourself/your music with a name that seems airily amorphous.
What does it actually mean to you?

It's also interesting listening to your track Sun of a Bitch, a title that suggests harshness & big themes whereas the music is restrained & finely detailed.
Maybe you just dig paradox. :?:

@ Be-1ne
I've gotten used to your nomen dubium...long past it & onto your music :U:
but I still think you could've made it easier for yourself by dropping the ne
& stay eminently recognizable.
(but I know...you've got all those corporate letterheads printed :D )
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by gravious » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:09 pm

sd5 wrote: ambiguous, more complex names tend take longer to accept, however fine their tunage:
phaelah
hyetal
appleblim
komonazmuk
sukh knight
gravious
in a lot of cases this may be deliberate reticence
Interesting topic! I am of course, thoroughly reticent, but more through neglect than intention.

It's strange, when I picked my producer name many years ago, it never really occured to me that people might say it wrong. Somehow, I never really imagined anyone else having to say it but me. Unambitious perhaps!

Somehow the name Gravious felt right for what I wanted to do - electronica edged, sci-fi influences, subbed out etc. But when I hear people say it differently, it doesn't have that same effect for me.

For the record - GRAV as in "gravity", IOUS as in "eeeh-us"

Most people seem to want to say "Gravy-us", which sounds a bit darker (or like a meaty sauce), or "Greivous", darker still. Or "Grav-wah" like it's French or shit.

Either that or they call me Gravious Angel.

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by Molzie » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:16 pm

organikismness. try saying that with your mouth full

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:16 pm

i like the name gravious myself, was a reason i gave you a listen in the first place :)
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by nousd » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:13 am

Gravious wrote:It's strange, when I picked my producer name many years ago, it never really occured to me that people might say it wrong. Somehow, I never really imagined anyone else having to say it but me. Unambitious perhaps!
ha, yeah, thanks for that...it sorta confirms what I suspected about some humble producers
but,ultimately, I can relate to Gravious cos it has gravitas
& evokes that grave-digger "We're doomed" type Scotsman...
not that you are that sort of character...almost the opposite :)

and now that Pistonbreath/Pistoff is on here,
I've gotta apologize for all the deliberate misnomers I've given you over the years.
It was only affectionate ribbing cos I like your productions & sets.
I know you've struggled with it yourself but, in the end, it's distinctive.

imo some of the hardest names to relate to come from the techstep crew.
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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by cogidubnus » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:08 am

sd5 wrote: I can relate to Gravious cos it has gravitas
& evokes that grave-digger "We're doomed" type Scotsman...
:lol:

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Re: What's in a name? Being ignored.

Post by nousd » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:12 am

& Benny (H)Ill is a brill name
cos it invokes serious stupidity
& chicks in hot pants chasing randy codgers.

& I've got a lot more to opine on this subject
but I doubt anyone wants to hear it.
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