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wormcode wrote:

hasezwei wrote: Also speaking of Alec Empire, he worked a bit with Kevin Martin/The Bug and Justin Broadrick (Napalm Death) for this project that I mentioned on the first page (released on Alec's DHR label in 97/98):

they also a did a second curse of the golden vampire album in 2003, but this time without Alec Empire



and since Kevin Martin's projects keep popping up, i gotta mention God:

I find it a bit strange that even though Scorn was doin this years before the emergence of dubstep, I don't think there's much of an influence among producers. Actually, the only stuff i found that resembles scorn a bit is the early Rottun catalogue, before datsik and all of that.

ultraspatial wrote:I find it a bit strange that even though Scorn was doin this years before the emergence of dubstep, I don't think there's much of an influence among producers. Actually, the only stuff i found that resembles scorn a bit is the early Rottun catalogue, before datsik and all of that.

Yeah - I chalk it up to concurrent evolution. Completely different scenes happening upon some similar sounds using alternate pathways. Another example would be the mid 90's NYC ambient/dub scene - stuff like WE, Sub Dub, Byzar, etc. Again, it didn't sound like modern day dubstep, but if you didn't know the history of how dubstep actually originated, one could easily think the original dubsteppers had been influenced by a lot of those groups & sounds as well.

Yeah, i know what you mean. Probably the only producer associated with dubstep today that came from those scenes is The Bug, seeing how his first album (tapping the conversation) has that ambient/dub/hiphop-ish thing going on.

ultraspatial wrote:Yeah, i know what you mean. Probably the only producer associated with dubstep today that came from those scenes is The Bug, seeing how his first album (tapping the conversation) has that ambient/dub/hiphop-ish thing going on.

Ive never been into The Bug..... I think I may have to have a rethink.

My personal favourites are the collabs with Spaceape (aka Cult of the 13th Hour) and the Run ep on swamp81.

Yeah techno animal is/are/were wicked too.

Got a MJH interview somewhere on mp3, well worth a listen. Ill try and dig it out but google it, you never know.

Also, the two macro dub infection cds are brilliant, weird 'dub' (including an insane alec empire tune) curated by kevin martin

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Macro-Du ... ase/115747
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Macro-Du ... ease/13820

JFK wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Yeah, i know what you mean. Probably the only producer associated with dubstep today that came from those scenes is The Bug, seeing how his first album (tapping the conversation) has that ambient/dub/hiphop-ish thing going on.

Ive never been into The Bug..... I think I may have to have a rethink.

I reaaally rate his output, especially King Midas Sound these days. The complete opposite of this thread I guess, but so good. Also if I had to pick 3 tunes to sum up dubstep IMO, Skeng would be on there no doubt.


Speaking of people who don't seem to have much of an influence overall, except with a few people: Muslimgauze and Depth Charge! Depth Charge's early 90s output sounds like proto-dubstep/grime. Hell he was even doing Wu Tang sounding beats before Wu Tang, even some of the same film samples. Both highly underrated producers.

Shaolin Buddha Finger!

Depth charge was cool.

JFK wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Yeah, i know what you mean. Probably the only producer associated with dubstep today that came from those scenes is The Bug, seeing how his first album (tapping the conversation) has that ambient/dub/hiphop-ish thing going on.

Ive never been into The Bug..... I think I may have to have a rethink.

his older stuff is pretty much industrial meets dancehall.



also, dub poetry:

my favorite tune off the album. took a while til it went click but man this one's great.

his latest album "london zoo" is much more dubstep-influenced, i could go on posting every tune from that album cause it's even better than his old stuff but i suppose you already know it, if not it's been posted here countless times.

wormcode wrote:Speaking of people who don't seem to have much of an influence overall, except with a few people: Muslimgauze and Depth Charge! Depth Charge's early 90s output sounds like proto-dubstep/grime. Hell he was even doing Wu Tang sounding beats before Wu Tang, even some of the same film samples. Both highly underrated producers.

Yeah, it's a shame some people don't get the recongition they deserve. Muslimgauze definitely set some standards, you can hear his influence in tracks from Shackleton, Badawi or Demdike Stare.

paradigm x wrote:

Standard Classic.

when im in one of those angry moods I wack on scorn full blast.

i feel the urge to bump this...

I started listening to Stealth for the first time yesterday.
Nothing is dark anymore.
Scorn encapsulates the term Dark & Hard all in one.

Electric_Head wrote:I started listening to Stealth for the first time yesterday.
Nothing is dark anymore.
Scorn encapsulates the term Dark & Hard all in one.

My thoughts exactly mate. Makes Vex'd look like The Sugarhill Gang......

JFK wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:I started listening to Stealth for the first time yesterday.
Nothing is dark anymore.
Scorn encapsulates the term Dark & Hard all in one.

My thoughts exactly mate. Makes Vex'd look like The Sugarhill Gang......

So happy I got sent here, the sun is rising outside my window, but Scorn is straight bringing the darkness back.

Mick Harris is awesome. A somebody has already mentioned a Q&A wouldn't go down very well. He types in CAPITALS on the net and just rants and raves basically. When Stealth came out I listened to it every night whilst going to sleep for months on end. That album made me seek out more bass orientated music and plunge into dubstep.

Also when Loefah was here a few years ago I was telling him that he should collaborate with Scorn. He just patted me on the shoulder and said "it's alright bruv, it's alright" One explanation could be that all the pills I had taken that night turned out to be ketamine and what came out of my mouth would have been more along the lines of "AGDFGFHMNVNJNFJNJCBHVGDCD!!!!" Embarrassing stuff.

Also on the topic of Techno Animal





Lone Wolf drops some Scorn into his sets sometimes too.