Michael Moore's Sicko ---Mind officially BLOWN thread

thoughtbombing · Post by **thoughtbombing** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:43 pm

masstronaut wrote:The situation may be a bit better in the UK but it's not all roses - and it's been getting progressively worse for some time. The NHS is horribly over-beaurocratic and inefficient, bogged down in multiple management layers - docs and nurse are underpaid and a lot of the really good ones end up going elsewhere unfortunately. Dental care is no longer completely free and nor is basic eyecare. And let's not forget the power that drug companies wield as well - and how they can influence what doctors do with erm, incentives. Still there are huge amounts of good people working in public healthcare and I suppose they do their best with the system we have.

I could walk into a hospital in the UK right now and be seen within an hour? Here, it's about 5 hours.

I was assaulted almost a year ago and was in a very bad state of disrepair... even almost dead, it took about 6 months to fill out all of the paperwork. I am STILL trying to figure out how to pay for the therapy that I am still in the process of doing.

This shit happens every day here. I could literally walk into a hospital in Europe and be seen.

I never thought that I'd be begging France to Liberate us from King George again... but fuck me, man...

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:45 pm

yeah i remember having to fill out paper working with a broken right arm

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:49 pm

In the UK, if I go to the hospital, not only do I NOT have to pay for it but you will fucking actually PAY ME for having gone to the hospital?

They'll validate my parking... and pay my train fare back to my flat?

yup, ever been to a hospital in the UK mr moore?

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:49 pm

ThoughtBombing wrote:Personally, I'd gladly renounce my citizenship and join the communist party if it meant a could live a healthier life. Apparently "terrorists" are getting better treatment than I am.

By the sounds of your condition and the expense of it, I'd suggest emigrating if it meant you could get free health care.

Seems clear to me that "terrorists" might be getting good health treatment, but then given what's being inflicted on them I think they probably need it. There seem to have been plenty of innocents treated incredibly badly, traumatized and with new mental health issues that they didn't have beforehand.

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:51 pm

don't they put you on dole for moving to england as well

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:52 pm

ThoughtBombing wrote:
I could walk into a hospital in the UK right now and be seen within an hour?

Fuck No

misschievous · Post by **misschievous** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:53 pm

I saw the movie too. I don't think Michael Moore expects anyone to take him seriously word for word. His documentaries are more like very opinionated films that just get a point across....strongly. I mean in the film he makes the Canadian healthcare system sound like it is perfect, but it's not, there are problems with it as well. Yes, there are long waiting lists sometimes, but at least we never actually see a bill if we have to go to a hospital or see a doctor.

I thought it was a great film, even if he does have a hankering to make issues very black and white, the idea of what he is saying is very valid and true.

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:58 pm

how bizarre that fox news praised it

i bet a slew of people were fired over that

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:58 pm

if not assasinated

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:00 pm

Parson wrote:don't they put you on dole for moving to england as well

You don't receive any welfare benefits for a year, unless you're seeking asylum in which case I think you either get vouchers to use in supermarkets, or they can put you in one of our lovely UK holding facilities

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:02 pm

Parson wrote:how bizarre that fox news praised it

i bet a slew of people were fired over that

I'd heard they'd been slating Bush lately (not a move to the left, just behind different variations of Republicans)

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:06 pm

bush was set up to be a scapegoat

they have just moved onto phase 2 as was obviously planned

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:06 pm

the only way to get a bunch of crazy stupid evil shit done quick is have some half-wit look like he's doing it by accident

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:15 pm

Parson wrote:bush was set up to be a scapegoat

they have just moved onto phase 2 as was obviously planned

Or popular dislike of the president could discredit any chances of the Republicans winning the next election. If there's schizm now and they distance themselves from the current president they stand more chance of regaining the majority vote.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:16 pm

Parson wrote:the only way to get a bunch of crazy stupid evil shit done quick is have some half-wit look like he's doing it by accident

Would have thought it fairly obvious to most that there's some pretty smart, if amoral minds behind the throne.

dj slums · Post by **dj slums** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:14 am

rekorder wrote:
In the UK, if I go to the hospital, not only do I NOT have to pay for it but you will fucking actually PAY ME for having gone to the hospital?

They'll validate my parking... and pay my train fare back to my flat?
yup, ever been to a hospital in the UK mr moore?

he meant hospital appointments - people on benefits can claim back travel costs at most hosptals.

little boh peep · Post by **little boh peep** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:11 am

Shonky wrote:I've never understood why one of the richest, most technologically advanced countries in the world doesn't have a national health care service

Ditto. This hits close to home and it makes me too angry to respond to this thread properly.

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:51 pm

dj slums wrote:
rekorder wrote:
In the UK, if I go to the hospital, not only do I NOT have to pay for it but you will fucking actually PAY ME for having gone to the hospital?

They'll validate my parking... and pay my train fare back to my flat?
yup, ever been to a hospital in the UK mr moore?
he meant hospital appointments - people on benefits can claim back travel costs at most hosptals.

didnt mention it tho did he?

relaks · Post by **relaks** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:46 pm

I have no words left for this subject.

fuck.

dj slums · Post by **dj slums** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:21 pm

rekorder wrote:
dj slums wrote:
rekorder wrote:
In the UK, if I go to the hospital, not only do I NOT have to pay for it but you will fucking actually PAY ME for having gone to the hospital?

They'll validate my parking... and pay my train fare back to my flat?
yup, ever been to a hospital in the UK mr moore?
he meant hospital appointments - people on benefits can claim back travel costs at most hosptals.
didnt mention it tho did he?

yes it was mentioned by the person he interviewed.

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