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Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:55 pm
by leeany
leyenda303 wrote:LumiNiscent wrote:leyenda303 wrote:slanguage wrote:is this man a donut?
wtf are you talking about? you do realize hip hop has had the biggest cultural impact musically for the last 30 years?
i can't believe what i'm reading
some people on this forum i swear down make me laugh...hip hop isn't some small niche genre you know
Thanks for clarifying that mate, I've seen the light. I definitely thought it was a small niche genre
Just because rappers and bling are involved does not make a track hip hop. I think if you took away house it would have a bigger impact than if you took away hip hop that's all. House has been incorporated into things like pop and 'urban music' etc to such an extent that people don't even realise it. More top 40 hits (which sadly is what defines pop culture) are house at their heart than hip hop.
so the size of a genre is defined by how many top 40 hits it influences ?
I'd say that's one way of measuring it's relative impact on pop culture which is what slanguage seemed to be getting at. In terms of the size of the actual genre I guess how many sub genres, sub-sub genres etc it umbrellas is one way of establishing how big that overarching genre would have to be. In that case I'd say house beats hip hop again. As for actually knowing the number of tracks produced in both genres and which might have more...I don't think anyone could even begin to claim to know. How would you define a genre's size?
I'd say by the amount of people that listen to it. I'm pretty sure that more kids grew up listening to hiphop than house, but maybe I just think that because everyone I grew up around is into hiphop
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:07 pm
by extremesociety
fractal wrote:why is it always an American who makes threads like these?
making us look bad buddy
Or making us look interested. I haven't seen a thread like this yet, but I'd love to read one.
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:10 pm
by hutyluty
dubsteps already dead afaik, so i dont see why people keep going on about the future of it?
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:54 pm
by incnic
i dont see any point in this
no matter what gets said the orginal poster just keeps on repostyoing himself
go listen 2 sum burila man
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:06 pm
by extremesociety
incnic wrote:i dont see any point in this
no matter what gets said the orginal poster just keeps on repostyoing himself
go listen 2 sum burila man
Because no one besides leyenda303 (and earlier for one post Mr Hyde) is actually saying anything substantive and it's kind of frustrating. What's your opinion?
EDIT: and dfaultuzr who I do agree with
And Burial? Been listening to Untrue for a good part of today... Archangel is such a sick tune.
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 pm
by fractal
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:25 pm
by extremesociety
Thanks, I'll go through these.
fractal wrote:your "discussion" just seems to be about dubstep and the mainstream
That's not quite it though. Dubstep is already mainstream, what I'm saying is that it might have a rare chance to transcend that and become a multi-faceted genre much like Rock is. It's experimental nature pushes it there.
Anyways, I guess I'm done for now
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:30 pm
by fractal
have we not become a multifaceted genre? I would say we reached that goal a long time ago. dubstep means something different to most of the people on this board
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:43 pm
by extremesociety
fractal wrote:have we not become a multifaceted genre? I would say we reached that goal a long time ago. dubstep means something different to most of the people on this board
Exactly, absolutely, YES.
The fact that Dubstep has enough diversity and has different meaning for everyone, much as rock does, but can still be though of as this cohesive genre of tons of different stuff is my point. It's a good thing, to me—something that dosen't happen to genres very often.
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:44 pm
by fractal
i would argue that all genres of music are multifaceted, it just depends on your perspective
Re: Mala....the next DJ Kool Herc?
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:06 am
by leyenda
fractal wrote:i would argue that all genres of music are multifaceted, it just depends on your perspective
I would agree that to even get to the stage of being refered to as a genre in its own right and not merely a sub genre of something else this has to be the case