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HEATA wrote:Awesome samples man!!! Thanks for the upload!

No prob bro I'mma boist.

nothing wrong with lifting drums from another song whatsoever. edm is built upon sampling. even a lot of commercial sample packs shamelessly rip their samples from other people's tracks illegally (one sample company who almost everyone on this board uses comes to mind ). just make sure your using the samples creatively and not using them lazily/plagiarizing/etc.

thanks for the pack will be d/ling shortly

ChadDub wrote:

joshisrad wrote:The kick and snares from Skrillex and Korn 's Get Up track are in this pack, which is obviously not legal to use in your own production. And the drums from We Will Rock You...???? I have to wonder how many of these samples are truly royalty free. Can't say I trust this pack, definitely won't use it.

It's all good man, no one cares about drum samples in terms of sueing people and shit. You think every producer on earth records and/or synthesizes their own drums? No. No one's going to notice either way. A few of the samples I even actually took straight from song's like that Koan kick and some dirty808 kicks.

...Until your record containing those samples starts making money, in which case just watch Queen and Korn's label's lawyers come after you.

Someone I knew broke it down like this: you can release a record with a blatant Star Wars sample and if it sells less than, say, 5000 units - eh, no biggie. Anything more than 5000 units and you'd better start hiring legal representation and/or try to clear the sample.

alphacat wrote:

ChadDub wrote:

joshisrad wrote:The kick and snares from Skrillex and Korn 's Get Up track are in this pack, which is obviously not legal to use in your own production. And the drums from We Will Rock You...???? I have to wonder how many of these samples are truly royalty free. Can't say I trust this pack, definitely won't use it.

It's all good man, no one cares about drum samples in terms of sueing people and shit. You think every producer on earth records and/or synthesizes their own drums? No. No one's going to notice either way. A few of the samples I even actually took straight from song's like that Koan kick and some dirty808 kicks.

...Until your record containing those samples starts making money, in which case just watch Queen and Korn's label's lawyers come after you.

Someone I knew broke it down like this: you can release a record with a blatant Star Wars sample and if it sells less than, say, 5000 units - eh, no biggie. Anything more than 5000 units and you'd better start hiring legal representation and/or try to clear the sample.

I thought so!

alphacat wrote:

ChadDub wrote:

joshisrad wrote:The kick and snares from Skrillex and Korn 's Get Up track are in this pack, which is obviously not legal to use in your own production. And the drums from We Will Rock You...???? I have to wonder how many of these samples are truly royalty free. Can't say I trust this pack, definitely won't use it.

It's all good man, no one cares about drum samples in terms of sueing people and shit. You think every producer on earth records and/or synthesizes their own drums? No. No one's going to notice either way. A few of the samples I even actually took straight from song's like that Koan kick and some dirty808 kicks.

...Until your record containing those samples starts making money, in which case just watch Queen and Korn's label's lawyers come after you.

Someone I knew broke it down like this: you can release a record with a blatant Star Wars sample and if it sells less than, say, 5000 units - eh, no biggie. Anything more than 5000 units and you'd better start hiring legal representation and/or try to clear the sample.

Star Wars samples are little bit more noticeable than drum samples.

ChadDub wrote:Star Wars samples are little bit more noticeable than drum samples.

Absolutely. But the point is, the moment it gets recognized by someone connected to the label it's as good as subpoenaed. You know who owns Hollywood Records, the current rightsholder to the Queen catalog? Fuckin' Disney. They do not fuck around when it comes to people getting paid off of unauthorized sales of their [perceived] property.

And as far as a band like Korn goes, it's obvious that they and their peeps have their ear to the underground in terms of new ideas to rip off- er, I mean "be inspired by." You can bet that the moment any of 'em hear a big clean undoctored sample of the kick drum they paid a producer $3000.00 and an afternoon of endless mic placement tests to get, they're going to hand it over to the law-douches.

My point is not that we shouldn't sample; the point is that we need to be smart about how we do it.

Mangle the sound into unrecognizability, sample from unrecognizable sources like 70's Albanian heavy metal or obscure Indian sci-fi movie soundtracks, or just use what's in the public domain (and there's a metric shit ton out there that nobody seems to know/care about.)

Speaking of Star Wars..

How does a person do something like this

http://soundcloud.com/coyotekisses/bina ... ote-kisses

and not get sued for it?

Thanks very much for theese, checkin em out now.

joshisrad wrote:Speaking of Star Wars..

How does a person do something like this

http://soundcloud.com/coyotekisses/bina ... ote-kisses

and not get sued for it?

Track doesn't appear to be for sale - if/when Lucas' people find out about it they'd probably just ask him to take it down. Seems like a novelty/fan/niche interest thing more than anything else. Now - if the guy starts selling it on iTunes or pressing & selling cd's/vinyl - that's a whole 'nother story.

On a personal note: the cheezball lead around 3:00 makes me somehow feel embarrassed for whoever wrote it. Jeez but it's corntastic.

I know all his songs have corny ass leads XD

it would be extremely hard to prove i didnt record a sound that is similar to the original.. u people are shoving clouds...

in the here and now i hugely doubt anyone will notice i took one sound out of a tune (which i never do anyways)... people are big on drum machine samples anyways haha

Ldizzy wrote:it would be extremely hard to prove i didnt record a sound that is similar to the original.. u people are shoving clouds...

in the here and now i hugely doubt anyone will notice i took one sound out of a tune (which i never do anyways)... people are big on drum machine samples anyways haha

We're talking about the drums from "We Will Rock You" though, not a half second hi-hat snippet off a Borgore cd or something like that.

And - the if your tune happens to start selling, the more it sells the more likely a pilfered sound will be exposed as such. Simple.

sorry i was talking single hits

and the non characteristic ones...

r u referring to the we will rock u clap?

to people who are worried about the samples, if you arent selling your tracks for profit, noone gives a shit.

and i doubt the producer of beyonces tracks listens to the kick drums in songs from anyone on this forum to see if they are his.



just saying, dont worry

alphacat wrote:

Ldizzy wrote:it would be extremely hard to prove i didnt record a sound that is similar to the original.. u people are shoving clouds...

in the here and now i hugely doubt anyone will notice i took one sound out of a tune (which i never do anyways)... people are big on drum machine samples anyways haha

We're talking about the drums from "We Will Rock You" though, not a half second hi-hat snippet off a Borgore cd or something like that.

And - the if your tune happens to start selling, the more it sells the more likely a pilfered sound will be exposed as such. Simple.

This isn`t the case though.
I have had tracks disallowed from SC uploading because a sample from Roadrunner records was being used.
A Sepultura sample from a jungle that was purely jungle sounds, birds, forest sounds, etc.
But I`ve also used a Mars Volta sample that had no issues.

How does the Star Wars sample make it onto SC?

Cheers mate, can never have enough drum samples!

Electric_Head wrote:How does the Star Wars sample make it onto SC?

Probably because nobody's listening to it to rat them out in the first place.

thanks for the pack!

I'm cutting down my library and some of these kicks are kinda nice. I'm still not sure about the legitimacy of this pack though. The clubby kicks. Are they not vengeance samples?

Some google searching pulled up that this pack includes samples from this pack:

http://www.producerloops.com/Download-Y ... -Ring.html

It's obvious when you leave the filenames the same (Trunk Open Hatz) because when I google that I get a bunch of torrent results.

As far as I'm concerned this entire pack is of dubious legitimacy. Whether or not the samples contained within were first pirated by ChadDub, the fact is they are more than likely not allowed to be redistributed in the licenses from which they came. Shame too.