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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:26 pm

6000 wrote:very cool, man. how did you go about building this? also, why phase modulation rather than frequency modulation?
i used synthmaker and for the mod matrix i assigned knobs to cause the level of each osc to modulate the phase of each chosen osc and included filters early in the middle of the chain too.. which was a whole lot of wires for me since im new to making synths lol. i used a bit of DSP code and also borrowed code from one or two generous people just to shorten the CPU usage of all the filters in my synth.
also i chose phase modulation since its sounds a lot lot better & that is what nearly all "fm" synths use. such as zebra, every synth in reason.. even all the "fm" yahama keyboards. if you route an oscilator into another osc's frequency (real fm) its way too high pitched and annoying IMO :mrgreen:
fm8 is the only synth i know that uses real fm without sounding too bad, but im sure theres others.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by collective » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:55 am

wormcode wrote:
collective wrote: I will be posting the packs when they are done being chopped. I did field recording all over london, I wouldn't be afraid. I use a portable reel to reel, a microcassette recorder (dictator... which is actually my favorite), a walkman (with pitch controls... essential) and then various digital devices. The more lofi the better in my eyes.

Go pick up a walkman or dictator and use that to record, they are 25 dollars brand new, you could find one in a dollar shop for a couple bucks ez.
I totally agree. I use a couple of new digital recorders purely for convenience and recording in questionable places, but the old tape is where it's at. What R2R do you use? I have an old Nagra and a big broken Ampex I've been wanting to repair someday. Do you have a good source for tape? I used to split tape costs with a friend who had a Space Echo and another weird tape echo but he sold it and the Roland has since died and repairs are costly.

Always wanted one of these. Portable James Bond business! They have always been crazy expensive though.
Nagra SN: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAGRA-SN-REEL-R ... 901wt_1265
I have a few Reel 2 Reels, some of them dont even have names. The portable one for instance is this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1960s ... 888wt_1398 , i can't find much information on it, but it takes 3inch reels 1/4inch tape. Its tiny and light, perfect for field recording.

As for tapes, I have had great luck at estate sales getting boxes of tape. I actually like recording over already used tape, the artifacts are brilliant.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by wormcode » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:29 am

collective wrote:I have a few Reel 2 Reels, some of them dont even have names. The portable one for instance is this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1960s ... 888wt_1398 , i can't find much information on it, but it takes 3inch reels 1/4inch tape. Its tiny and light, perfect for field recording.
As for tapes, I have had great luck at estate sales getting boxes of tape. I actually like recording over already used tape, the artifacts are brilliant.
Yeah for sure. The best sounds from the Space Echo came from tape that was used loads of times. The same with other tape, I like to record random stuff a few times then record over that. Those VHS tapes I mentioned usually get left on during the night recording random bits, then corrupted various ways and recorded again. It creates a sort of natural datamosh effect after a few times.

I've never been lucky with estate sales except for vinyl and some old photographs and cameras, like tintype stuff. I don't go nearly enough though.

http://www.polyphonyrecordings.com
These guys sell some interesting old tape and will also buy it.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by Acidhedz » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:41 am

Since I have 0 formal training, and never try to do anything particular with my songs everything I do is interesting for me. Each track is a learning experience. I only started getting into more in depth mixing, which has been fun. Frustrating at times, but fun.

The only thing really interesting I'm doing at this moment is trying to get the funding with kickstarter to get my first proper album mastered, released and promoted.

The last 7 or so months of my life was put into adding dubstep into my knowledge base and working on the songs on the album. Still can't seem to get anyone to pay attention though. It's only my dream, my life and everything I love and care about professionally. But I seem to be one of those people that are just invisible.

:(

Now I want to get drunk again. I hate being manic-depressive. :u: :u: :u: :u:

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by wub » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:00 am

At the moment...
  • Fiddling around with tapes for the purposes of sampling to/from
  • Putting together 3 new promotional DJ mix projects
  • Learning Albino
  • Going through my entire DVD collection to find sample worthy bits for a ready-to-run voice over sub folder of samples
  • Hoping to have at least one studio promo mix available for download by the time summer comes around

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by JTMMusicuk » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:30 am

wub wrote:At the moment...
  • Fiddling around with tapes for the purposes of sampling to/from
  • Putting together 3 new promotional DJ mix projects
  • Learning Albino
  • Going through my entire DVD collection to find sample worthy bits for a ready-to-run voice over sub folder of samples
  • Hoping to have at least one studio promo mix available for download by the time summer comes around
your back!this place went to shit without you wub :dunce:

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by collective » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:01 pm

Acidhedz wrote:Since I have 0 formal training, and never try to do anything particular with my songs everything I do is interesting for me. Each track is a learning experience. I only started getting into more in depth mixing, which has been fun. Frustrating at times, but fun.

The only thing really interesting I'm doing at this moment is trying to get the funding with kickstarter to get my first proper album mastered, released and promoted.

The last 7 or so months of my life was put into adding dubstep into my knowledge base and working on the songs on the album. Still can't seem to get anyone to pay attention though. It's only my dream, my life and everything I love and care about professionally. But I seem to be one of those people that are just invisible.

:(

Now I want to get drunk again. I hate being manic-depressive. :u: :u: :u: :u:

This isn't interesting, in fact this has really nothing to do with what we are talking about in here. We are trying to keep it to unique recording techniques, building things (efx, pedals, synths etc), experimentation (not just learning a program, but possibly creating programs), utilizing gear in inspiring ways...

That being said, maybe people would take notice of your sound more if it was unique in some way. I'd find a way to incorporate something new into your productions, that means stepping away from the box for a second or stepping into a programming environment for a second.

Also, you only been in it for 7 months... I'd relax on the whole "no one pays attention" attitude. You arn't really in a position to garner attention yet (no offense).
wub wrote:At the moment...
  • Fiddling around with tapes for the purposes of sampling to/from
  • Going through my entire DVD collection to find sample worthy bits for a ready-to-run voice over sub folder of samples
This seems like standard fair, would like to hear more about what your doing with the tapes... degradation? ways you are recording to tape? Creating your own tape loops? etc etc.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by wub » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:30 pm

collective wrote:
wub wrote:At the moment...
  • Fiddling around with tapes for the purposes of sampling to/from
  • Going through my entire DVD collection to find sample worthy bits for a ready-to-run voice over sub folder of samples
This seems like standard fair, would like to hear more about what your doing with the tapes... degradation? ways you are recording to tape? Creating your own tape loops? etc etc.
I discussed it more in depth here - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 7#p2729987

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by Acidhedz » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:15 pm

Also, you only been in it for 7 months... I'd relax on the whole "no one pays attention" attitude. You arn't really in a position to garner attention yet (no offense).
Dubstep for 7 months, music production for 4 or 5 years, I just never focused on any particular style before like I did with dubstep this time. I learned about the style, incorporated it into my own style, then made the album in 7 months, although I am still working on it.

Fine, something not everyone does... I've been making bass with cut up vocal samples. So sorry if I'm too boring for you.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by 6000 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:01 pm

sunny_b_uk wrote:
6000 wrote:very cool, man. how did you go about building this? also, why phase modulation rather than frequency modulation?
i used synthmaker and for the mod matrix i assigned knobs to cause the level of each osc to modulate the phase of each chosen osc and included filters early in the middle of the chain too.. which was a whole lot of wires for me since im new to making synths lol. i used a bit of DSP code and also borrowed code from one or two generous people just to shorten the CPU usage of all the filters in my synth.
also i chose phase modulation since its sounds a lot lot better & that is what nearly all "fm" synths use. such as zebra, every synth in reason.. even all the "fm" yahama keyboards. if you route an oscilator into another osc's frequency (real fm) its way too high pitched and annoying IMO :mrgreen:
fm8 is the only synth i know that uses real fm without sounding too bad, but im sure theres others.
cheers dude. i'll have to check out synthmaker. i was planning on doing some fm stuff in pure data (really easy to implement) but i will make sure to try out phase modulation too. i'd heard it was more popular for fm synths but wasn't sure if it was the sound or efficiency or some implementation thing... guess i'll have to try it out for myself.
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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:55 pm

ok kool yeah try it out with a few oscilators so you'll get more of an idea.
also try to include oversampling in your project/experiment if your able to since FM and PM etc will sound miles cleaner with less aliasing and noise when using this (at the cost of increased cpu useage).

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by collective » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:09 pm

anyone interested in some of the tape sample let me know. Also lets try and keep this thread going.


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Acidhedz wrote:
Also, you only been in it for 7 months... I'd relax on the whole "no one pays attention" attitude. You arn't really in a position to garner attention yet (no offense).
Dubstep for 7 months, music production for 4 or 5 years, I just never focused on any particular style before like I did with dubstep this time. I learned about the style, incorporated it into my own style, then made the album in 7 months, although I am still working on it.

Fine, something not everyone does... I've been making bass with cut up vocal samples. So sorry if I'm too boring for you.
more of:
6000 wrote:latest pd synth:

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next project i hope to make some kind of z-plane morphing filter thingy. might have to learn how filters work first though.

and this obviously, lots more of this:
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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by wormcode » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:36 pm

collective wrote:anyone interested in some of the tape sample let me know. Also lets try and keep this thread going.
Yeah I'm interested in it if you want to link or put some up. Up for trading recordings too if you want.
I've been looking around for a smaller R2R like the one you linked, found a few online but people are usually unaware if it's operational and not familiar with old units to test it. Probably just gonna grab a couple and hope for the best.

I'm trying to buy an old rebranded Akai reel to reel that also records 8 tracks haha, it's missing the power cable though so I'm looking around for service manuals to see how easy it would be to solder something onto it before I impulse buy it.

Do you subscribe to Tape Op? They will send you free copies if you're in UK/US. The forum also has good info.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by misk » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:09 pm

I play live with a monome 128 when I play. I've been learning max/msp (specifically how to get the monome to talk to the computer and vice versa) a lot lately. I've also been field recording a LOT of stuff, then layering it in interesting ways and making kontakt instruments that are organic, synthetic, musical and slightly percussive.

I also got a shitty cello bow from amazon.com and i plan on recording samples of me bowing on weird shit, like sticks and cymbals and stuff. Oh and I've been reading 'microsound' by Curtis Roads, the father of granular synthesis - and experimenting with grain clouds in a musical context (i.e. they don't just sound like a bunch of bleeps and white noise).

I ride my bike a lot too. :W:

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by hudson » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:12 pm

misk wrote: I also got a shitty cello bow from amazon.com and i plan on recording samples of me bowing on weird shit, like sticks and cymbals and stuff. Oh and I've been reading 'microsound' by Curtis Roads, the father of granular synthesis - and experimenting with grain clouds in a musical context (i.e. they don't just sound like a bunch of bleeps and white noise).
Pro tip: Go to your local music store and ask if they have any damaged or defective bows they can't sell. 99% of the time they'll give them to you extremely cheap or free, and 80% of the time the defects are hardly noticeable.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by 3za » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:14 pm

No I'm a boring person...
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Post by misk » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:16 pm

Acidhedz wrote:
Also, you only been in it for 7 months... I'd relax on the whole "no one pays attention" attitude. You arn't really in a position to garner attention yet (no offense).
Dubstep for 7 months, music production for 4 or 5 years, I just never focused on any particular style before like I did with dubstep this time. I learned about the style, incorporated it into my own style, then made the album in 7 months, although I am still working on it.

Fine, something not everyone does... I've been making bass with cut up vocal samples. So sorry if I'm too boring for you.
you're fine man. everyone has their own path. I'll say something tho. no matter how down you get, don't do anything drastic. a friend of mine took his own life - even if you think no one cares about you, you'd be VERY surprised.

that being said, collective - what this guy is doing is interesting to HIM - he's more than worthy to contribute to this thread. i don't know you, but chill out man.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by 3za » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:21 pm

misk wrote:
Acidhedz wrote:
Also, you only been in it for 7 months... I'd relax on the whole "no one pays attention" attitude. You arn't really in a position to garner attention yet (no offense).
Dubstep for 7 months, music production for 4 or 5 years, I just never focused on any particular style before like I did with dubstep this time. I learned about the style, incorporated it into my own style, then made the album in 7 months, although I am still working on it.

Fine, something not everyone does... I've been making bass with cut up vocal samples. So sorry if I'm too boring for you.
you're fine man. everyone has their own path. I'll say something tho. no matter how down you get, don't do anything drastic. a friend of mine took his own life - even if you think no one cares about you, you'd be VERY surprised.

that being said, collective - what this guy is doing is interesting to HIM - he's more than worthy to contribute to this thread. i don't know you, but chill out man.
Yeah I feel this to, but couldn't be fucked to say it. So I called myself boring.

Surely we're all doing stuff that is interesting to us, thats why we're doing.
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Sure_Fire wrote:By the way does anyone have the stems to make it bun dem? Missed the beatport comp and would very much like the ego booster of saying I remixed Skrillex.

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Re: Anyone doing anything interesting?

Post by collective » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:02 am

misk wrote:I play live with a monome 128 when I play. I've been learning max/msp (specifically how to get the monome to talk to the computer and vice versa) a lot lately. I've also been field recording a LOT of stuff, then layering it in interesting ways and making kontakt instruments that are organic, synthetic, musical and slightly percussive.

I also got a shitty cello bow from amazon.com and i plan on recording samples of me bowing on weird shit, like sticks and cymbals and stuff. Oh and I've been reading 'microsound' by Curtis Roads, the father of granular synthesis - and experimenting with grain clouds in a musical context (i.e. they don't just sound like a bunch of bleeps and white noise).

I ride my bike a lot too. :W:

OSC for communication, but are you utilizing mlrV? Or you trying to build your own patch?

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