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drake89 wrote:

joshisrad wrote: Loudness sells.

LAWL. it sounds fine. but clearly 'loudness sells' is stupid because plenty of music is not brick wall'd. if you take a look over to the MAIN PAGE on the beatport charts, you will see that none of the tracks suffer from the same problem.

Cheeky wrote:

joshisrad wrote:
The sub sounds fine to me. No reason to reduce the limiting. I think you're just mad because the track sounds huge and everyone loves it, and you can't do it like that.

You clearly haven't heard of Teknicyde have you...

joshisrad wrote:

Basic A wrote:You act like I made the thread, Im not remotely jealous, if I saw a tune on here that was brickwalled, Id laugh just the same.

I'm not accusing you of making the thread. I'm accusing you of agreeing with the OP.

I cant well be jealous of a dubstep #1 on beatport, Im not a dubstep DJ or producer, its not my genre, its not my taste, I play and produce mostly techno/electro/house, Im here because there are alot of good people on here. Why does taste always equal jealousy with you people? Cant you understand some of us arent in this to compete with anyone? That some of us just like artistic expression through sound? Jeez... And also, this isnt a question of Excisions production you fuckin dumbass, we're explaining how a poor ME can complete ruin a tune by someone as talented as Excision. Not saying excisions tune was bad. Or that we are jealous. Just that dude should re-evaluate who he hires.

Tune literally sounds like exactly what people want, is loud as fuck, and is #1 on beatport, so I think he made the right decision. I'm not saying you're jealous that you wish you could be #1 dubstep on beatport, but that you're jealous of his success. You wish you could have that success with your loudness-war-holier-than-thou mindset.

Finally, as someone whos had my own mastering treatments pressed to wax, dont talk shit on my knowledge, I can definately find a few times Ive helped you personally on here if I did some searching, and Ive been producing EDM for 8 years, dont suppose I might have heard brickwalled audio before? And after searching your posts, you just generally seem mad today, so Ill forgive you for not bothering to read anytihng I said, and completely missing the point of Deadlies post.

But one more time - your a dumbass. This isnt about Excision, so its not jealousy of him. Its about his mastering engineers.

I never said it's about Excision, I know that you are talking about his ME, and it's you're not your. Don't even pretend like you're above me. And I'm not mad, nor am I showing signs of anger. I'm not dishing out insults; you are.

ehbrums1 wrote:This guy reminds me a lot of DJ Kornspun

hutyluty wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:This guy reminds me a lot of DJ Kornspun

thanks for giving me another excuse to post this

-TraX- wrote:IMO he should have spent less time mastering it and more time actually composing the damn track, its so weak. I don't think Excision is much of a musician, just a hell of a technician

deadly habit wrote:sorry my ears don't like smashed to hell mixes and brickwall limiting, neither do the vast majority of others

deadly habit wrote:a master isn't just a limiter on the main channel squashed to hell

google "metallica death magnetic loudness war" and you might understand

joshisrad wrote:

deadly habit wrote:

joshisrad wrote:Tell that to the tens of thousands of people who love the shit out of the song and have helped it reach #1 on beatport. Those poor listeners.. suffering and they don't even know it!

and more people bought death magnetic by metallica and that was atrociously mastered as well
sales doesn't automatically excuse a shitty mastering job, that and your common listener is playing their music on ipod headphones which we all know are the greatest for picking up on the nuances of a track

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad mastering.

deadly habit wrote:so stick to your strawman argument about haters and let the grown ups talk about production related stuff on the production board

joshisrad wrote:

deadly habit wrote:so stick to your strawman argument about haters and let the grown ups talk about production related stuff on the production board

Nice dodge.

joshisrad wrote:

deadly habit wrote:so stick to your strawman argument about haters and let the grown ups talk about production related stuff on the production board

Nice dodge.