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NilsFG wrote:

LA_Boxers wrote:

Clean wrote:What does the sync button even do? the one on my midi controller is broken, and I am quite happy about it lol, less temptation.

It 'syncs' the beats, so that the kick drums are on, in theory meaning the mix wont clang.

The sync button only syncs the tempo, not the grid. If you want the grids to sync to you need to use "snap to grid".

do CDJs come with that button?

pulkpull wrote:

wub wrote:

Func wrote:*googles Zedd*

Don't bother, he's dead.

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tunabomber wrote:

slothrop wrote:

wizeguy wrote:doing something that takes skill and practice will always gain more respect than something that doesn't.... ya get me

That's while I only go to see DJs who mix while riding a unicycle.

yep, those are deep. i'm also feeling the mixing b2b origami sets right now.

ain't got nothing on this guy:

haha, bet he bangs bare them slags afterwards

haha wtf i thought that was gonna be chefal

wizeguy wrote:doing something that takes skill and practice will always gain more respect than something that doesn't.... ya get me

this hits the nail on the head

Phigure wrote:

wizeguy wrote:doing something that takes skill and practice will always gain more respect than something that doesn't.... ya get me

this hits the nail on the head

So you DO only go and see DJs who unicycle or do origami, then?

Standard

if the DJ isn't wearing a cool mask i immediately turn around and run out the discothèque

note to oneself: construct origami mask for next DJ performance.

I READ THE FIRST PAGE AND AM UNAWARE IF ANY BANS WERE ISSUED

HATING ON THIS IS LIKE HATING ON PEOPLE FOR USING CONDOMS WHILE YOU YOURSELF ARE A PARENT

Am I really that weird that I appreciate a DJ because they've got a deep box of tunes that they know well, and they know how to read a crowd and build a set and make a mix work and all that sort of stuff rather than appreciating the fact that they've become vaguely competent at a completely uncreative mechanical task which can be performed adequately by a computer?

I mean, if the computer was picking the tunes and working the fader then it'd be shit because those are some of the bits where the individuality and personality of the DJ come out. Not when they adjust the tempo.

I dunno, to a non-DJ this just looks a lot like a bunch of people who feel threatened because the only absolute objective thing that marks them out as Definitely A Proper DJ is increasingly becoming optional...

slothrop wrote:Am I really that weird that I appreciate a DJ because they've got a deep box of tunes that they know well, and they know how to read a crowd and build a set and make a mix work and all that sort of stuff rather than appreciating the fact that they've become vaguely competent at a completely uncreative mechanical task which can be performed adequately by a computer?

I mean, if the computer was picking the tunes and working the fader then it'd be shit because those are some of the bits where the individuality and personality of the DJ come out. Not when they adjust the tempo.

I dunno, to a non-DJ this just looks a lot like a bunch of people who feel threatened because the only absolute objective thing that marks them out as Definitely A Proper DJ is increasingly becoming optional...

You might catch some hate for that part bro

My 2 cents- I read that back in the old days a dancehall DJ was called selector, not DJ. Good proper human mixing always gets more respect, but at the end of the day, the real talent is having the tunes, choosing the tunes and building the mix. Lot of the posters on this site can probably mix as good as Youngsta but they haven't got the Badman VIP. Computers can't know that teasing in a classic classic song is going to make the place go nuts. And computers don't know about rewinds. But I just thought: what if they got that computer that can play jeopardy taught it about the history of dubstep

slothrop wrote:Am I really that weird that I appreciate a DJ because they've got a deep box of tunes that they know well, and they know how to read a crowd and build a set and make a mix work and all that sort of stuff rather than appreciating the fact that they've become vaguely competent at a completely uncreative mechanical task which can be performed adequately by a computer?

I mean, if the computer was picking the tunes and working the fader then it'd be shit because those are some of the bits where the individuality and personality of the DJ come out. Not when they adjust the tempo.

I dunno, to a non-DJ this just looks a lot like a bunch of people who feel threatened because the only absolute objective thing that marks them out as Definitely A Proper DJ is increasingly becoming optional...

What makes you think that mixing is only about adjusting the tempo?

Plenty of DJs out there that do a lot more than just adjust a tempo. Fact is, there's tonnes of shit that can be done with a computer more easily, but some people will appreciate the skill to do something more difficult. Yes, there will be people that don't care how it's mixed, and that's fair enough, but also, there are people that care. Don't let it stress you.

lawtun wrote:

slothrop wrote:Am I really that weird that I appreciate a DJ because they've got a deep box of tunes that they know well, and they know how to read a crowd and build a set and make a mix work and all that sort of stuff rather than appreciating the fact that they've become vaguely competent at a completely uncreative mechanical task which can be performed adequately by a computer?

I mean, if the computer was picking the tunes and working the fader then it'd be shit because those are some of the bits where the individuality and personality of the DJ come out. Not when they adjust the tempo.

I dunno, to a non-DJ this just looks a lot like a bunch of people who feel threatened because the only absolute objective thing that marks them out as Definitely A Proper DJ is increasingly becoming optional...

You might catch some hate for that part bro

My 2 cents- I read that back in the old days a dancehall DJ was called selector, not DJ. Good proper human mixing always gets more respect, but at the end of the day, the real talent is having the tunes, choosing the tunes and building the mix. Lot of the posters on this site can probably mix as good as Youngsta but they haven't got the Badman VIP. Computers can't know that teasing in a classic classic song is going to make the place go nuts. And computers don't know about rewinds. But I just thought: what if they got that computer that can play jeopardy taught it about the history of dubstep

to a degree it would be possible, but you'd need a lot more sensors. also the computer that can play jeopardy isn't a good example. iirc it just searched the internet based on the keywords it was told, nothing too special.

It would be possible to create and teach an AI to mix tunes based on genre and key,building mixes and increasing intensity, as well as DJing techniques like teasing tunes with noticeable features. The main issue for reloads etc would be how would the AI know the crowds reaction? Unless it was monitoring the crowd and had been trained in how well the tune was going down it wouldn't know.

Also, I also think that people like their DJs to be people, even if they are pressing the sync button in traktor. It's one of those jobs where people would rather have a human do it, else whats the point in going out? if a computer can do it why don't I stay home with my iPod

Riddles wrote: The main issue for reloads etc would be how would the AI know the crowds reaction?

You know how cameras detect people's faces? Like that, but with gunfingers.

garethom wrote:

Riddles wrote: The main issue for reloads etc would be how would the AI know the crowds reaction?

You know how cameras detect people's faces? Like that, but with gunfingers.

haha true. would be possible, just setup, upkeep and maintenance would be more than paying some chap to come in and play

"They touk our joaaabbbs!"

garethom wrote:What makes you think that mixing is only about adjusting the tempo?

Isn't that kind of the point I'm making, though? All the sync button does is adjust the tempo so there's a whole lot of skill in what a DJ does that you can't just skip by turning 'sync' on.

Do people hate on producers who use the piano roll rather than playing notes in live?

garethom wrote:You know how cameras detect people's faces? Like that, but with gunfingers.

Shum wrote:note to oneself: construct origami mask while doing next DJ performance.

Better.