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nowaysj wrote:Let's get to the bottom line here, dump cubase, what a dinosaur.

VirtualMark wrote:Unfortunately for a lot of crappy producers this means they won't get any money from their work.

Sharmaji wrote:^ ha! took me a second to realize that this wasn't about piracy. even better.

yeah i saw on the arturia website that their whole delivery date thing had been pushed back, and also saw that i'd missed a call from sweetwater (i'm out of the country at the moment so can't access vm), and i presume that's what they're telling me.

better late than never, right?

also, back to the conversation...

VirtualMark wrote:Unfortunately for a lot of crappy producers this means they won't get any money from their work.

newsflash: crappy producers don't deserve any money for their work. crap work is crap work and crap songs are crap songs, and should be treated as such. period. This is music in reality, not in the classroom. no one gets a pat on the back for effort.

nowaysj wrote:Fuck of yes, but Sharma should be getting his first

My guy is saying MAY 30th!!!!! they receive it so I'll be getting it in June some time. But Sharma and I ordered from same place, and I ordered 3 months before him, and he is scheduled to get it first, so if he does, he better be locking his studio door, cause as far as I'm concerned, that one is mine.

When I first ordered the mini brute was supposed to come in like Feb 20th.... I've been a waitin a long time. Starting to really bug me bro.

But I'd be happy to do a review, make a Kontakt patch of a fucked up bass/synth, if y'all are okay with the ancient kontakt 3.5, still haven't upgraded.

Basic A wrote:

Attila wrote:

Basic A wrote:As musicians - piracy effects you negatively.

pirating in general has given independent musicians a chance.

Id be terrified to ever share anything with you, or to instill any sort of trust in you. Piracy has HURT indie musicians who dont get signing bonuses more then any other area of the economy.

Piracy has destroyed big labels. The whole musical landscape (with few exceptions) now belongs to independent artists. And now that recording and production costs hover around zero for 99% of artists it doesn't matter that music doesn't sell anymore. When you had to pay tens of thousand to record an album selling loads of copies was important, but now that we're all working itb from home studios the whole situation is irrelevant. Any real living in music always came from touring, so anybody saying piracy's killing their career is just making a really bad excuse for not doing well. Doesn't matter whether you trust or share anything with me because you can't argue facts.

You just agreed though, physical is dead.

How are labels to fund these proverbial tours if they cant expect more then 99c a product, and noone pays that? You think venues and systems are free? I dont know about you, but Ive enver seen a subwoofer grow on a tree. If you read my post, youd see I covered how piracy was killing live music too.

Recording costs zero? you priced a microphone lately? you know how much FLStudio costs? Or the waves bundle you stole?

Are you trying to pretend maustripe still qualifies as indie when you say the markets dominated by indie labels? Have you turned on a radio, ever, in your life?

This isnt something eprsonal about my own standings in life, Im quite happy with my musical career, I press dubs out of pocket via cutting houses miles away from home, just for the love, because it feels good for the soul. The amount of money I dump into my music for the love... the fact remains products dont sell and promoters are selling there cars. The love, and willingness to invest your all in the shit, is whats going out of style due to piracy and me-me-me-all-for-free mentality.

cmgoodman1226 wrote: How many mixes do you own? How many of those mixes contain songs that you've never bought? I don't mean to sound presumptuous, but I would assume that you probably have at least a few with tracks you don't own. How is this any different than pirating a song?

atlascesar wrote:

Huts wrote:

cmgoodman1226 wrote: How many mixes do you own? How many of those mixes contain songs that you've never bought? I don't mean to sound presumptuous, but I would assume that you probably have at least a few with tracks you don't own. How is this any different than pirating a song?

really? a 1:10 mix cut of a potentially unfinished, unmastered tune in a mix that was intended for free download in the context of a mix, with an MC talking over it, at 128kbs, is the same as taking a 320/wav of a full track released with the intention of being sold?

Killamike49 wrote:I think the point huts was trying to make, is that it's like listening to a preview on beatport. You don't get the whole tune, and most of the time the tunes being manipulated in one way or another anyway.