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nah 30 hits real nice, its that buttery smooth bass

Distance says he boosts at 50 so you feel it in your chest in his sub tutorial

boosts what? his sub or kick? wouldnt make a difference with a sine

Immerse wrote:boosts what? his sub or kick? wouldnt make a difference with a sine

Sub, and it wasn't a sine. I've been thinking around 50Hz is a good sub after watching that as I figured Distance knows his subs

yah 50hz is a really punch section.

constrobuz wrote:this thread represents a lot of what is wrong with this forum and dubstep in general.

Sine's don't sound like sine's, you gotta tape a bunch of cats together.

Fauster wrote:

Justin Bays wrote:

Fauster wrote:Check out this chart. E1 hits at 41.2034 and E2 hits at 82.4069. Of the two, I'd say go with E2. 41hz is too low for most systems to reproduce. You probably would have a hard time even hearing it well if you're using a pair of entry-level midfields.

I can feel and hear E1 sine great on my $150 sennheiser headphones. They can go down to about D1

E2 would completely clash with your kick

I can hardly hear an E1 sine on my HS80Ms. The bass always clashes with the kick. That's what side-chaining is for.

Sennheiser makes great products. The truth is, most people listening to your track will not be listening on a system that reproduces 41 hz.

lol, wut? if by E1 you mean like 40ish Hz whatver, then how can you not hear that, E1 is like one of the fucking hardest hitting notes for a sub, once you go for a C you are either too low or high, although C2 can be ok. Maybe it is your room, but around an E1 should be resonating everything in the fucking room lol.

best thread ever tbh

checkmate
http://www.dubstepforum.com/legend4ry-s ... 43648.html

Pawn to E4.

skimpi wrote:

Fauster wrote:

Justin Bays wrote:

Fauster wrote:Check out this chart. E1 hits at 41.2034 and E2 hits at 82.4069. Of the two, I'd say go with E2. 41hz is too low for most systems to reproduce. You probably would have a hard time even hearing it well if you're using a pair of entry-level midfields.

I can feel and hear E1 sine great on my $150 sennheiser headphones. They can go down to about D1

E2 would completely clash with your kick

I can hardly hear an E1 sine on my HS80Ms. The bass always clashes with the kick. That's what side-chaining is for.

Sennheiser makes great products. The truth is, most people listening to your track will not be listening on a system that reproduces 41 hz.

lol, wut? if by E1 you mean like 40ish Hz whatver, then how can you not hear that, E1 is like one of the fucking hardest hitting notes for a sub, once you go for a C you are either too low or high, although C2 can be ok. Maybe it is your room, but around an E1 should be resonating everything in the fucking room lol.

if you have a sub then yes. if you're using little ipod earbuds or computer speakers or a stock car stereo probably not

Maxxan wrote:Do you people seriously go this low for your subs? Most people aren't going to be able to hear it, isn't this taking away a lot of energy from the track that would be better spent an octave higher? Anyone know how low the 'pros' go?

No offense dude, but this is exactly why the tune in your sig has absolutely no weight or power to it.

Most of the sub in Kalawanji hits at 61hz (B2):


Then in Breakage - Rain the really deep sub hits at 32hz (C1):


In Mud by Loefah (often called the bassiest thing thing in the history of, like, everrrr) the sub hits at 49hz (G1):


So there you go, pretty much anything between 30hz and 65hz is good sub. If you've heard, say, Dutch Flowerz by Skream on a club system you'll note that the higher notes in the basslines (some of them around 80hz) sort of ring around your ears but don't really hit you in the chest, then that burst of ~50hz bass really thumps you. Seriously, having your lowest bass at 80hz in a 'bass music' tune is just silly.

Fauster wrote:Check out this chart. E1 hits at 41.2034 and E2 hits at 82.4069. Of the two, I'd say go with E2. 41hz is too low for most systems to reproduce. You probably would have a hard time even hearing it well if you're using a pair of entry-level midfields.

I've owned shitty Logitech speakers that can reproduce 41hz adequately. My current system includes a fairly entry-level $300 subwoofer, and 41hz sounds LOVELY on it. Your argument is invalid.

thank you for putting in the effort to write all that out maccaveli. you earn the "less lazy than i" award

On the contrary, I wrote that cos I'm too lazy to be doing something more productive. Cheers for the recognition though

Kilo Graham wrote:

skimpi wrote:

Fauster wrote:

Justin Bays wrote:

Fauster wrote:Check out this chart. E1 hits at 41.2034 and E2 hits at 82.4069. Of the two, I'd say go with E2. 41hz is too low for most systems to reproduce. You probably would have a hard time even hearing it well if you're using a pair of entry-level midfields.

I can feel and hear E1 sine great on my $150 sennheiser headphones. They can go down to about D1

E2 would completely clash with your kick

I can hardly hear an E1 sine on my HS80Ms. The bass always clashes with the kick. That's what side-chaining is for.

Sennheiser makes great products. The truth is, most people listening to your track will not be listening on a system that reproduces 41 hz.

lol, wut? if by E1 you mean like 40ish Hz whatver, then how can you not hear that, E1 is like one of the fucking hardest hitting notes for a sub, once you go for a C you are either too low or high, although C2 can be ok. Maybe it is your room, but around an E1 should be resonating everything in the fucking room lol.

if you have a sub then yes. if you're using little ipod earbuds or computer speakers or a stock car stereo probably not

He said he has HS80Ms, which is what I have, and you can definitely hear an E1, I can also hear an E1 and lower in my sennheiser earbuds lol

Fuck, this thread is everything wrong with this forum. It's rather frightening that in three pages no one mentioned that it might be a good idea to layer 1 or even 2 sine waves at higher octaves so ppl can hear on small speakers. Obviously at lower volumes. Or add some low passed distortion if you're feeling crazy.

drake89 wrote:Fuck, this thread is everything wrong with this forum. It's rather frightening that in three pages no one mentioned that it might be a good idea to layer 1 or even 2 sine waves at higher octaves so ppl can hear on small speakers. Obviously at lower volumes. Or add some low passed distortion if you're feeling crazy.

That wasn't the topic of discussion, there was no need to mention it. I think someone did mention that you can get higher harmonics by making your sub out of something other than a sine wave though.

drake89 wrote:Fuck, this thread is everything wrong with this forum. It's rather frightening that in three pages no one mentioned that it might be a good idea to layer 1 or even 2 sine waves at higher octaves so ppl can hear on small speakers. Obviously at lower volumes. Or add some low passed distortion if you're feeling crazy.

lol why the fuck would anyone wanna do that, fuck people with small speakers

skimpi wrote:

drake89 wrote:Fuck, this thread is everything wrong with this forum. It's rather frightening that in three pages no one mentioned that it might be a good idea to layer 1 or even 2 sine waves at higher octaves so ppl can hear on small speakers. Obviously at lower volumes. Or add some low passed distortion if you're feeling crazy.

lol why the fuck would anyone wanna do that, fuck people with small speakers

exactly, i dont get the obsession with making things sound good for other people. Its whether it sounds good to you surely?