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Hircines right, the only difference is workflow. although personally if i had a mac i'd use fl studio combined with logic, benga-style

Alright alright, learn something new everyday'

In an ideal situation that happens, i tend to forget stuff though, even techniques that are entirely my own

twilitez wrote:In an ideal situation that happens, i tend to forget stuff though, even techniques that are entirely my own

Make a template or save video tutorials. I know when I was writing lyrics I recorded myself badly singing so I could remember.

I hath decided to not talk about DAW's anymore from now on unless it's the one I'm using.

Thats sound advice though, tempate anything youve done right. Its worth it.

Yeah saving your sounds is essential. I save all my channel strips and creative eqs. I didnt know that benga used fl, i heard that skream used to but i thought benga just used logic. Im gona have to check this out. One thing i find that helps me before i start a song Is to write down ideas and draw out patterns or diagrams of how i want it to sound. It sounds silly but drawing out automation patterns by hand really works for me.

1stfiest wrote:Not to hate on fl or anything but i personaly found it really hard to make anything proffesional sounding on it, especialy if your only using the software that comes with it. My advice: switch DAW. Cubase if windows, Logic if apple. Torrented versions should do for now. Buying a few computer music magazines should help too.

^ Don't listen to this horseshit.

oprs wrote:

1stfiest wrote:Not to hate on fl or anything but i personaly found it really hard to make anything proffesional sounding on it, especialy if your only using the software that comes with it. My advice: switch DAW. Cubase if windows, Logic if apple. Torrented versions should do for now. Buying a few computer music magazines should help too.

Biggest bunch of wank ever seriously.
The drum samples may not be up to par but seriously as a whole FL is right up there with every other daw.
TROOF

Agreed. I switched to mac recently and was excited about trying out Logic, but I eventually found out through using it is the only thing that separates it from fruity is the fact that the built-in instruments and effects are much better, but aside from that there is no obvious difference in audio quality at all.

Infact, FL is miles ahead of Logic workflow wise in my opinion. The speed at which you can get good swingy drum patterns because of the step sequencer etc.

There is more to logic than shiney instruments and vst's. Many forms of quantization and limiters, humanizing function, flex tool, MO sampler. But anyway you guys are missing the point: if you have been producing on fruity loops for 3 years and your music is shit then switch daw. Worked for me. Might not work for you, but you can always switch back.
I have never slandered fruity loops' audio quality or workflow, as every daw is different, different is not necisarily bad. Look forward to you guys quoting what i have said with naughty words following. Im sure that really helps this guy 'get his shit togeather' peace.

I disagree and agree in a way.

Yes it matters at finding what DAW works for you..


But if your music still sounds like shit it means that you haven't learned enough about production theory which means you should brush up on that instead of worrying about your tools.

Imo there are two essentials.

1. Knowledge of what you can do in a song, ducking, transitions, progressions, music theory etc etc etc.
2. Knowledge of how to use the tool and items that you have.

Really it comes down to how much practice time, effort and how much you want to learn about what you start with. Then once you've learned everything you possibly know if your workflow is bad on that DAW. THEN you switch.