The Guardian's "New Rules Of The Dancefloor"

[mIrReN]

• There is a way of working your way through a packed crowd: slowly, saying "excuse me", a gentle hand in the small of someone's back to indicate you're coming through. Hurling yourself into the melee like you're a enraged prop forward – or, worse, a pissed-up indie kid who's never been out clubbing before – is poor form. See also: carrying four pints above your head and spilling most of them on your fellow clubbers.

everything but this. They won't hear you, they won't feel your gentle hand because it's a rave ppl touch, half of them don't even want to move a ll bit because theyre stnuc other half is too far gone to even notice you. And just take sips from the beer so you won't spill those precious liquids

[Hedley King]

I'm always getting asked if I'm selling,(I take it as a bit of a compliment!), possibly a bit more now I'm older and guess that would be annoying if people assume you must only be there to sell because you're older than them.

But its shitty when you ask someone who then looks at you like you must be some weird addict for asking in a club. Getting pissed off with it is against most of the points in that article (i.e. chill out, people take drugs in clubs). Shouldn't be any more of a deal that someone asks if you're selling in a club than people asking you for the time or directions in normal life- I doub't they're making any huge character judgements, just asking around.

In fact, another bullet point for me would be:

- People take drugs in clubs, it is quite normal for people to randomly ask if anyone is selling. If someone asks you if you are selling drugs don't look at them like they are something you scraped off your shoe, don't assume that they must be some sort of parasitic drug addict, and don't assume they are making any huge character judgements on you.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

everything but this. They won't hear you, they won't feel your gentle hand because it's a rave ppl touch, half of them don't even want to move a ll bit because theyre stnuc other half is too far gone to even notice you.

never had this problem.

then again, i can look fairly aggressive, and i am not a small man

[NilsFG]

• There is a way of working your way through a packed crowd: slowly, saying "excuse me", a gentle hand in the small of someone's back to indicate you're coming through. Hurling yourself into the melee like you're a enraged prop forward – or, worse, a pissed-up indie kid who's never been out clubbing before – is poor form. See also: carrying four pints above your head and spilling most of them on your fellow clubbers.

everything but this. They won't hear you, they won't feel your gentle hand because it's a rave ppl touch, half of them don't even want to move a ll bit because theyre stnuc other half is too far gone to even notice you. And just take sips from the beer so you won't spill those precious liquids

I always do the sorry and touch thing. People are always friendly to me when I do it

[Laszlo]

- People take drugs in clubs, it is quite normal for people to randomly ask if anyone is selling. If someone asks you if you are selling drugs don't look at them like they are something you scraped off your shoe, don't assume that they must be some sort of parasitic drug addict, and don't assume they are making any huge character judgements on you.

As much as I have complained about it on here in recent weeks I do understand what you are saying. It's not tooo much of a hassle having people ask 12 or more times in a night BUT it does get mildly offensive when randoms come up to you and start a conversation with "How's business? Sold much tonight?". It gets slightly more problematic when actual drug dealers think i'm encroaching on their turf and subsequently look to ascertain my reasons for being there . This has happened to me a few times and needless to say it's not much fun.
I think I just have that look that fits everyone's preconceived idea of a dealer.

Ironically, the other thing I get accused of being is an undercover/off duty cop. Admittedly this doesn't happen in clubs.

[Hedley King]

- People take drugs in clubs, it is quite normal for people to randomly ask if anyone is selling. If someone asks you if you are selling drugs don't look at them like they are something you scraped off your shoe, don't assume that they must be some sort of parasitic drug addict, and don't assume they are making any huge character judgements on you.

As much as I have complained about it on here in recent weeks I do understand what you are saying. It's not tooo much of a hassle having people ask 12 or more times in a night BUT it does get mildly offensive when randoms come up to you and start a conversation with "How's business? Sold much tonight?". It gets slightly more problematic when actual drug dealers think i'm encroaching on their turf and subsequently look to ascertain my reasons for being there . This has happened to me a few times and needless to say it's not much fun.
I think I just have that look that fits everyone's preconceived idea of a dealer.

Ironically, the other thing I get accused of being is an undercover/off duty cop. Admittedly this doesn't happen in clubs.

Fair play, that would get annoying! About the worst I've had is some bloke not taking no for an answer- he was sure I was selling and just being a knob to him.

[kingGhost]

"Music's all right, but it's bit fucking gay, innit?"

[mIrReN]

poor me guess I'm hateable or so

[kay]

• Theris a way of working your way through a packed crowd: slowly, saying "excuse me", a gentle hand in the small of someone's back to indicate you're coming through. Hurling yourself into the melee like you're a enraged prop forward – or, worse, a pissed-up indie kid who's never been out clubbing before – is poor form. See also: carrying four pints above your head and spilling most of them on your fellow clubbers.

everything but this. They won't hear you, they won't feel your gentle hand because it's a rave ppl touch, half of them don't even want to move a ll bit because theyre stnuc other half is too far gone to even notice you. And just take sips from the beer so you won't spill those precious liquids

Can't agree with you. I can usually get past crowds with a simple tap or weave. Often don't even have to touch anyone. It's all about being patient and spotting gaps opening. Probably helps that I'm not big.

I also usually notice that bargers often ram themselves to the front, and the leave pretty fucking quickly, barging their way back out. Or, just stand there chatting away. Seriously, why bother???

[particle-jim]

I'd also like to add to the list, don't all stand still and take group photos on the dancefloor, dancefloor's for dancing not posing with your fucking spastic mates

[mIrReN]

fuck off with the cell phone flash btw or I swear to god you'll have to pay for a new one
I already dread lights at every event and those fucks make it even worse

[Laszlo]

I'd also like to add to the list, don't all stand still and take group photos on the dancefloor, dancefloor's for dancing not posing with your fucking spastic mates

But we wouldn't have nearly as many 'SOON' pictures then.

Nah, I agree though. iphones in places like Plastic People are especially jarring.

[kay]

fuck off with the cell phone flash btw or I swear to god you'll have to pay for a new one
I already dread lights at every event and those fucks make it even worse

[particle-jim]

I'd also like to add to the list, don't all stand still and take group photos on the dancefloor, dancefloor's for dancing not posing with your fucking spastic mates

But we wouldn't have nearly as many 'SOON' pictures then.

Nah, I agree though. iphones in places like Plastic People are especially jarring.

See I dont mind people taking pictures in clubs, but when you get a group of about 10 people all posing for a photo in the middle of a packed dancefloor its bare annoying and inconsiderate to everyone else there trying to dance whilst avoiding the large, static group of people who are seemingly only there to take vanity shots

[Sonika]

Haha saw this get posted on multiple occasions on facebook

[kay]

I'd also like to add to the list, don't all stand still and take group photos on the dancefloor, dancefloor's for dancing not posing with your fucking spastic mates

But we wouldn't have nearly as many 'SOON' pictures then.

Nah, I agree though. iphones in places like Plastic People are especially jarring.

See I dont mind people taking pictures in clubs, but when you get a group of about 10 people all posing for a photo in the middle of a packed dancefloor its bare annoying and inconsiderate to everyone else there trying to dance whilst avoiding the large, static group of people who are seemingly only there to take vanity shots

Does this mean we have to stop taking photos in the ninja corner at system?

[Laszlo]

My main gripe is people in dark clubs turning around and filming the crowd with a flood light attached to their phone. Safe for the retinal scarring, yeah!

Seems like i'm moaning a lot in this thread. I got used to pretty much all the things that annoy people about clubbing a long time ago, it's just the mass group shots and flood-light-phones are a relatively new thing.
Not sure which will come first - me getting used to these new occurrences or the death of my will to rave.

[AxeD]

Club scene is really good and packed with generally nice people I've noticed.
Darker the better though. Also see this wave of young(er) girls who apparently are into harder techno stuff nowadays.
Nothing but good imo.
Even met this girl at a Mills night who started talking about Joy O

Rarely have anything less than a great night out nowadays.

[kay]

I keep my eyes closed through a significant portion of raves. Less now when Im out with mates.

[particle-jim]

I'd also like to add to the list, don't all stand still and take group photos on the dancefloor, dancefloor's for dancing not posing with your fucking spastic mates

But we wouldn't have nearly as many 'SOON' pictures then.

Nah, I agree though. iphones in places like Plastic People are especially jarring.

See I dont mind people taking pictures in clubs, but when you get a group of about 10 people all posing for a photo in the middle of a packed dancefloor its bare annoying and inconsiderate to everyone else there trying to dance whilst avoiding the large, static group of people who are seemingly only there to take vanity shots

Does this mean we have to stop taking photos in the ninja corner at system?

Not at all, we dont do that 'standing there all huddling in for a group shot' thing on the dancefloor