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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 am
by hifi
install a new soundcard driver in ur firewall

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:33 am
by Gravehill
I wouldnt mess with the release, just turn up the attack or put a low pass filter on it

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:18 am
by syrup
i set up my a/r by ear

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:49 pm
by djfeloe
Hypefiend wrote:install a new soundcard driver in ur firewall
I use the Asio

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:58 pm
by hifi
thts outdated dude, just go 2 ur local electronics market/home depot an just ask for the new soundcloud driver

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:46 pm
by VirtualMark
Hypefiend wrote:thts outdated dude, just go 2 ur local electronics market/home depot an just ask for a new soundcloud driver
Yeah that fixes it every time for me.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:42 pm
by djfeloe
Hypefiend wrote:thts outdated dude, just go 2 ur local electronics market/home depot an just ask for a new soundcloud driver
Total noob but what's a soundcloud driver? Do you mean a sound card?

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:05 am
by hifi
jus ask for the newest drivr in stock / in stall but ask for the dual installation 1s, compatibl w/ like windows, macOS, ps3s , xbox etc . there like almos 2 terabytes big though so stok up on external hds, get like 3 or 4 of em .

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:08 am
by djfeloe
Do you have any recommendations?? :)

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:34 am
by erratech
He is taking the piss

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:36 am
by VirtualMark
djfeloe wrote:Do you have any recommendations?? :)
The Xbox soundcloud driver is the most efficient imo, helps with the creative process. But it can sometimes alias.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:53 pm
by hifi
VirtualMark wrote:
djfeloe wrote:Do you have any recommendations?? :)
The Xbox soundcloud driver is the most efficient imo, helps with the creative process. But it can sometimes alias.
^^^

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:29 am
by marktplatz
Sinestepper wrote:or just put a lowpass filter at the end of the signal chain? works in reason lol
Yeah I often have a problem with this in Reason, so as many others have advised, I turn up the attack and release a bit. I generally want that fade-in sound anyway, and it helps accommodate any drum hits happening at the same time. But I often still get a (quieter) click then. If you look at the waveforms: with zero attack, the wave will probably start away from level 0, since the oscillator is free-running, and so that discontinuity from the preceding silence causes the click. If you put some attack on it, the wave will start at 0 without fail but will probably rise or fall from 0 at an immediate slope, which causes a sharp cusp at the start there, and even though this is not a discontinuity, the cusp still causes a click.

So, I like to put a 24dB/oct lowpass filter on it, set the filter freq to minimum, set the filter env amt to something large, and set the filter env attack and release to similar small amounts as the amp env attack and release, and the filter env sustain to full. This essentially acts as a second amp envelope, so now if you look at the wave, it curves up or down from horizontal at the beginning, i.e. it's smoothly continuous from the preceding silence, and this eliminates the click. (This is using Thor; I find that Subtractor's sine has a weird high artifact when it's not low-passed, so I prefer Thor for subs.) Maybe using the Mod Matrix to make another envelope actually work as a second amp env would get the same result, but the filter is the quicker option.

I wish you could choose different shapes for attack and release; a sigmoid or half-sine (trough to peak) would be ideal here.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:44 am
by ehbes
marktplatz wrote:
Sinestepper wrote:or just put a lowpass filter at the end of the signal chain? works in reason lol
Yeah I often have a problem with this in Reason, so as many others have advised, I turn up the attack and release a bit. I generally want that fade-in sound anyway, and it helps accommodate any drum hits happening at the same time. But I often still get a (quieter) click then. If you look at the waveforms: with zero attack, the wave will probably start away from level 0, since the oscillator is free-running, and so that discontinuity from the preceding silence causes the click. If you put some attack on it, the wave will start at 0 without fail but will probably rise or fall from 0 at an immediate slope, which causes a sharp cusp at the start there, and even though this is not a discontinuity, the cusp still causes a click.

So, I like to put a 24dB/oct lowpass filter on it, set the filter freq to minimum, set the filter env amt to something large, and set the filter env attack and release to similar small amounts as the amp env attack and release, and the filter env sustain to full. This essentially acts as a second amp envelope, so now if you look at the wave, it curves up or down from horizontal at the beginning, i.e. it's smoothly continuous from the preceding silence, and this eliminates the click. (This is using Thor; I find that Subtractor's sine has a weird high artifact when it's not low-passed, so I prefer Thor for subs.) Maybe using the Mod Matrix to make another envelope actually work as a second amp env would get the same result, but the filter is the quicker option.

I wish you could choose different shapes for attack and release; a sigmoid or half-sine (trough to peak) would be ideal here.
have you tried bouncing it and then using the fade in on the editor?

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:00 am
by marktplatz
No, I never bounce stuff. If I did it would probably frequently make my life easier, but at least currently I prefer pure synthesis, no audio clips. Good tip for others though.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:31 am
by djfeloe
VirtualMark wrote:
djfeloe wrote:Do you have any recommendations?? :)
The Xbox soundcloud driver is the most efficient imo, helps with the creative process. But it can sometimes alias.
Lol :breaky:

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:27 am
by Artie_Fufkin
Just make sure if you do a fade in, you don't change the shape of the wave or it will distort where you faded it.
ex: Image


has anyone ever tried resampling something through a dj mixer and using the crossfader to cut the sample? that wouldn't do this, would it?

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:35 pm
by Undrig
If the sine stops or starts on a point of the sine's axis that is not zero crossing, you will hear a pop. I prefer it for the attack bit, as you can't really replicate that pop sound using eq. Sounds especially good on 808 style kicks. The post above mine illustrates how to do it for the attack.