and it sounds it's trying too hard instrumentally whilst sounding compeltely characterless. All style over substance. I can't help but just think it is appalling hipster music based entirely on hype.
Not helped much by the fact if you watch interviews with her she seems totally clueless
EDIT: talking about grime
lol mod edit
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:42 am
by twilitez
For such an immensely popular site as RA that looked pretty progressive. I dont listen to much albums though so i cant judge, ive got my weekly podcast feeds and thats about it.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:27 am
by hutyluty
RA is great imo. The reviews are often quite sycophantic- especially if the word 'Berghain' is involved anywhere but in general the interviews, features and production advice are fantastic. Miles ahead of say fact and xlr8r.
Edit: Don't understand how people can hate hate hate it.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:47 am
by Phigure
hutyluty wrote:RA is great imo. The reviews are often quite sycophantic- especially if the word 'Berghain' is involved anywhere but in general the interviews, features and production advice are fantastic. Miles ahead of say fact and xlr8r.
Edit: Don't understand how people can hate hate hate it.
yeah im with you.
i mean youre gonna have this problem with almost any blog, but RA is by far not the worst offender in my eyes
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:38 am
by knell
Phigure wrote:
i mean youre gonna have this problem with almost any blog
agreed, too many blogs try to appear objective in order to assume a commanding role when it comes to tastemaking
honestly, i approach it as a "you're here, i like this, maybe you will too" mentality... no scoring system, no wordy paragraphs with thesaurus fueled filler, no top tens, minimal hype, no "overrated artist" blanketing troll posts to generate traffic...
if every blog just shared what they liked without too much editorializing, the non-major-label music scene would be far more organized
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:42 am
by ultraspatial
joeki wrote:
The long answer :
I will never stop listening to her. Whatever dude, Ultraspatial just took my post quite literally, which he was entitled to but I suspect he might also have been a little ticked off by the dungeon comment (why otherwise mention it in the reply). The like-minded people bit was sort of a softening of my reply denoting that people I have a mutual taste with on the board, seemed to agree with basically a lot of similar top albums (like RA, my own choice, and a couple of members here whom I know have similar taste here) putting emphasis on the fact that the same sort of albums seem to be popping up in our lists.
Btw, the phrase 'essential in any end of years list' is quite common media-phrase no? And I like to pick on Dungeon, that surely was known by now.
The Short answer :
I am king of music. I'm always right.
I wast ticked off by you implying that people who listen to dungeon a lot are not able to appreciate these unquestionably good/essential albums and your sense of superiority because you listen to certain kinds of music that came along with it. Just because you + a few other people with similar taste and blogs consider these albums good/essential doesn't mean that everybody will (or that they will pop up in any end of the year lists).
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:47 am
by Phigure
someone who listens to grimes is infinitely more discredited in my eyes than a dungeon listener
jk fractal i still got love for you
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:53 am
by ultraspatial
knell wrote:
Phigure wrote:
i mean youre gonna have this problem with almost any blog
agreed, too many blogs try to appear objective in order to assume a commanding role when it comes to tastemaking
honestly, i approach it as a "you're here, i like this, maybe you will too" mentality... no scoring system, no wordy paragraphs with thesaurus fueled filler, no top tens, no hype, no "overrated artist" blanketed troll posts to generate traffic...
if every blog just shared what they liked without too much editorializing, the non-major-label music scene would be far more organized
this x100
Blogs and magazines take their role as tastemakers waaaaay too serious. They all have biases just like anybody else; they're not the supreme judges of music or whatever.
I get giving a bad review to an artist you've always supported, but not branching out all over the place, reviewing whatever gets sent to you (kinda like RA with dnb releases). But I guess without those things you mentioned they wouldn't get any hits.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:22 am
by garethom
knell wrote:honestly, i approach it as a "you're here, i like this, maybe you will too" mentality...
EDIT: Haven't heard much Grimes, but somebody posted "My Sister Says The Saddest Things" on here once and I bought it straight away. Banger.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:03 pm
by joeki
That was me obviously
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:41 pm
by BaronVon
A lot of these albums are severely boring.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:12 pm
by Liam92
I really liked the Grimes album tbh and as for RA, pretty neutral towards them, their podcast series is sick though
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:17 pm
by leeany
garethom wrote:
knell wrote:honestly, i approach it as a "you're here, i like this, maybe you will too" mentality...
EDIT: Haven't heard much Grimes, but somebody posted "My Sister Says The Saddest Things" on here once and I bought it straight away. Banger.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:07 pm
by SCope13
knell wrote:
Phigure wrote:
i mean youre gonna have this problem with almost any blog
agreed, too many blogs try to appear objective in order to assume a commanding role when it comes to tastemaking
honestly, i approach it as a "you're here, i like this, maybe you will too" mentality... no scoring system, no wordy paragraphs with thesaurus fueled filler, no top tens, minimal hype, no "overrated artist" blanketing troll posts to generate traffic...
if every blog just shared what they liked without too much editorializing, the non-major-label music scene would be far more organized
it's the disorganization that makes it great
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:04 pm
by knell
that's a very convenient opinion ... keep supporting the same ol' blogs then
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:25 pm
by ezza
Grimes is fully sick. I really don't get the hate :/ Got a very unique sound, doing something different & alot of her shit is catchy as fuck
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:57 pm
by AxeD
Johoosh wrote:Andy Stott is a badboy
Raaaaaw as fuck. I've been pitching tracks down like mad just to fit in some of his stuff
Good albums in this list. I agree it not right to present it as an objective list, but whatever.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:36 pm
by wolf89
Agent 47 wrote:Grimes is fully sick. I really don't get the hate :/ Got a very unique sound, doing something different & alot of her shit is catchy as fuck
yeah if unique means bland production, poor songwriting and shit singing
actually it makes sense. Trendy over hyped content lacking music for someone who buys trendy over priced fashion.
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:46 pm
by ezza
I dunno man i quite like the production & i'd say stripped down, not bland.
The layering she does with her vocals works really well imo & i guess the whole 80s sound on alot of her tracks is a bit trendy atm but that doesn't mean it's not still nice music.
Maybe you just don't get what she's going for.
& the fact I buy clothes I like doesn't mean I listen to music just cus it's the new cool thing
Re: Resident Advisor Top 20 Albums of 2012
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:51 pm
by wolf89
it's not that it's stripped back. It is just characterless. she sings all weird like she is attempting to do Kate Bush's weirder vocal styles but actually can't do it because she can't sing and the songs are just badly written.
