Ignorant House/Techno question.

[hutyluty]

soulful- live drums samples


robotic, drum machine

[dickman69]

its like the difference between grime & dubstep

its hard to quantify

i think its more of a feeling u get from it

[bkwsk]

If you can't apprecite this, you don't have a musical bone in your body

[skimpi]

I still don't get it, I mean, I'd noticed what most people in here had said, the rest seems underthought...

But I still don't get why the two need different names. They're like two sides of the same coin for me. And not all house needs to be 4 to the floor.

But like, im not a pro on house music, but id say that yes, house does have to be 4 to the floor, that is and has always been what house is, if its not 4 to the floor then its not house lol.

can you give me an example of house that isnt 4 to the floor.

Like maybe if you keep listening to it, then you will get it, but to me its VERY clear as to the difference of the two, and its not two names for the same thing lol

[fragments]

I don't get what the big deal is, house and techno are clearly two different sounds (excepting maybe tech house and some minimal stuff that's harder to pin down). House music, to me, has always more closely resembled the pop/dance music of the past. Real drum kits, recognizable instruments, pop-ish or melancholy synth leads, female vox. Techno is a-melodic, mechanical, cold, other world-ish.

I have no idea what's coming out these days, but when put a Frankie Bones track next to Juan Atkins track I don't hear a reason for confusion.

[DJoe]

I still don't get it, I mean, I'd noticed what most people in here had said, the rest seems underthought...

But I still don't get why the two need different names. They're like two sides of the same coin for me. And not all house needs to be 4 to the floor.

But like, im not a pro on house music, but id say that yes, house does have to be 4 to the floor, that is and has always been what house is, if its not 4 to the floor then its not house lol.

can you give me an example of house that isnt 4 to the floor.

Like maybe if you keep listening to it, then you will get it, but to me its VERY clear as to the difference of the two, and its not two names for the same thing lol

4x4 but not in the traditional sense

[fragments]

^I like that moodymann track, but the kick sounds shit on my headphones. It's like distorted and phased and...I dunno something wrong with it. lol. Cool tune though will be looking up more stuff from him or her.

[hutyluty]

^I like that moodymann track, but the kick sounds shit on my headphones. It's like distorted and phased and...I dunno something wrong with it. lol. Cool tune though will be looking up more stuff from him or her.

yeah its cos its on youtube no doubt.

[fragments]

^right right. I always just expect the internet to deliver perfection despite it's track record of achieving the contrary.

[twilitez]

Moodymann is a legend.

[wolf89]

Moodymann is by far one of the best djs I've seen. Theo Parrish also. I love the fact they play anything of any genre or age. It's about the art of constructing a set and educating the listener rather than just a pure "AWWWW M8 I GOT THE SICKEST NEW DUBPLATE THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE TRACK BEFORE IT YEAH?!"

[DJoe]

Moodymann is a legend.

[Sharmaji]

played w/ Moodyman in Lisbon back in December-- besides being a fantastically chill dude, his set was SMOKIN.

house is a direct descendent of disco and is, in my mind, a real authentic 70s/80's New York sound-- a mixture of white and black disco, latin rhythms and instrumentation from uptown, the jump and dubby vibes from Brooklyn's carribean world, the downtown art and club culture and the marginalized gay cultures. Sure, then it went to Chicago and got jacked, and went to detroit and got all afrofuturist and synthesized and sent off to greener pastures in Europe and the UK-- but really it all comes from disco.

The lines blur at acid house, tech house, "soulful techno," etc. this is not a bad thing.

There's plenty of house that's not 4-to-the-floor. Karizma's stuff comes to mind, as do bits by François K, MAW, even Basic Channel. And lest we forget the whole broken-beat stuff from the late 90s and on-- Bugz and 4hero may have been on some nex' ting, but they were making house records. and of course, UK funky.

[skimpi]

played w/ Moodyman in Lisbon back in December-- besides being a fantastically chill dude, his set was SMOKIN.

house is a direct descendent of disco and is, in my mind, a real authentic 70s/80's New York sound-- a mixture of white and black disco, latin rhythms and instrumentation from uptown, the jump and dubby vibes from Brooklyn's carribean world, the downtown art and club culture and the marginalized gay cultures. Sure, then it went to Chicago and got jacked, and went to detroit and got all afrofuturist and synthesized and sent off to greener pastures in Europe and the UK-- but really it all comes from disco.

The lines blur at acid house, tech house, "soulful techno," etc. this is not a bad thing.

There's plenty of house that's not 4-to-the-floor. Karizma's stuff comes to mind, as do bits by François K, MAW, even Basic Channel. And lest we forget the whole broken-beat stuff from the late 90s and on-- Bugz and 4hero may have been on some nex' ting, but they were making house records. and of course, UK funky.

ahh man you got me there then haha, isnt basic channel mainly Techno though?

That tune you posted is probs just gonna confuse the guy even more though haha. The beat is obvs very funky and lively, and not techno, but then the synth chords are very repetitive and techno like lol

[mks]

This is considered a House track. Classic tune.

Broken Beat and Deep House are two of the styles I have been producing for a long time now and they mix together so well. I just consider it all in a range of syncopated and not as syncopated.

[dickman69]

This is considered a House track. Classic tune.

Broken Beat and Deep House are two of the styles I have been producing for a long time now and they mix together so well. I just consider it all in a range of syncopated and not as syncopated.

wow how could i forget that w/ the non 4x4

remind me of this 1 too

[AxeD]

It's not like we're getting paid to educate these people
.

loooooooool

Yeah, that probably came across a bit schmuck

Anyway I don't get what the deal is. Listen to a set from Luke Slater and one by Moodymann, that's your difference.
Of course there's things that cross-over, but Guetta and whatever are pop imo. Not house.

[skimpi]

so like, is deadmau5 techno or house?

[chekov]

wow can't believe i've never heard that gil scott heron and moodymann track before

[dickman69]

so like, is deadmau5 techno or house?

electrohouse