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Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:13 pm
by skimpi
zerbaman wrote:I still don't get it, I mean, I'd noticed what most people in here had said, the rest seems underthought...
But I still don't get why the two need different names. They're like two sides of the same coin for me. And not all house needs to be 4 to the floor.
But like, im not a pro on house music, but id say that yes, house does have to be 4 to the floor, that is and has always been what house is, if its not 4 to the floor then its not house lol.
can you give me an example of house that isnt 4 to the floor.
Like maybe if you keep listening to it, then you will get it, but to me its VERY clear as to the difference of the two, and its not two names for the same thing lol
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:33 pm
by fragments
I don't get what the big deal is, house and techno are clearly two different sounds (excepting maybe tech house and some minimal stuff that's harder to pin down). House music, to me, has always more closely resembled the pop/dance music of the past. Real drum kits, recognizable instruments, pop-ish or melancholy synth leads, female vox. Techno is a-melodic, mechanical, cold, other world-ish.
I have no idea what's coming out these days, but when put a Frankie Bones track next to Juan Atkins track I don't hear a reason for confusion.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:57 pm
by DJoe
skimpi wrote:
zerbaman wrote:I still don't get it, I mean, I'd noticed what most people in here had said, the rest seems underthought...
But I still don't get why the two need different names. They're like two sides of the same coin for me. And not all house needs to be 4 to the floor.
But like, im not a pro on house music, but id say that yes, house does have to be 4 to the floor, that is and has always been what house is, if its not 4 to the floor then its not house lol.
can you give me an example of house that isnt 4 to the floor.
Like maybe if you keep listening to it, then you will get it, but to me its VERY clear as to the difference of the two, and its not two names for the same thing lol
4x4 but not in the traditional sense
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:23 pm
by fragments
^I like that moodymann track, but the kick sounds shit on my headphones. It's like distorted and phased and...I dunno something wrong with it. lol. Cool tune though will be looking up more stuff from him or her.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:29 pm
by hutyluty
fragments wrote:^I like that moodymann track, but the kick sounds shit on my headphones. It's like distorted and phased and...I dunno something wrong with it. lol. Cool tune though will be looking up more stuff from him or her.
yeah its cos its on youtube no doubt.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:49 pm
by fragments
^right right. I always just expect the internet to deliver perfection despite it's track record of achieving the contrary.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:42 pm
by twilitez
Moodymann is a legend.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:18 pm
by wolf89
Moodymann is by far one of the best djs I've seen. Theo Parrish also. I love the fact they play anything of any genre or age. It's about the art of constructing a set and educating the listener rather than just a pure "AWWWW M8 I GOT THE SICKEST NEW DUBPLATE THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE TRACK BEFORE IT YEAH?!"
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:20 pm
by DJoe
twilitez wrote:Moodymann is a legend.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:48 pm
by Sharmaji
played w/ Moodyman in Lisbon back in December-- besides being a fantastically chill dude, his set was SMOKIN.
house is a direct descendent of disco and is, in my mind, a real authentic 70s/80's New York sound-- a mixture of white and black disco, latin rhythms and instrumentation from uptown, the jump and dubby vibes from Brooklyn's carribean world, the downtown art and club culture and the marginalized gay cultures. Sure, then it went to Chicago and got jacked, and went to detroit and got all afrofuturist and synthesized and sent off to greener pastures in Europe and the UK-- but really it all comes from disco.
The lines blur at acid house, tech house, "soulful techno," etc. this is not a bad thing.
There's plenty of house that's not 4-to-the-floor. Karizma's stuff comes to mind, as do bits by François K, MAW, even Basic Channel. And lest we forget the whole broken-beat stuff from the late 90s and on-- Bugz and 4hero may have been on some nex' ting, but they were making house records. and of course, UK funky.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:31 pm
by skimpi
Sharmaji wrote:played w/ Moodyman in Lisbon back in December-- besides being a fantastically chill dude, his set was SMOKIN.
house is a direct descendent of disco and is, in my mind, a real authentic 70s/80's New York sound-- a mixture of white and black disco, latin rhythms and instrumentation from uptown, the jump and dubby vibes from Brooklyn's carribean world, the downtown art and club culture and the marginalized gay cultures. Sure, then it went to Chicago and got jacked, and went to detroit and got all afrofuturist and synthesized and sent off to greener pastures in Europe and the UK-- but really it all comes from disco.
The lines blur at acid house, tech house, "soulful techno," etc. this is not a bad thing.
There's plenty of house that's not 4-to-the-floor. Karizma's stuff comes to mind, as do bits by François K, MAW, even Basic Channel. And lest we forget the whole broken-beat stuff from the late 90s and on-- Bugz and 4hero may have been on some nex' ting, but they were making house records. and of course, UK funky.
ahh man you got me there then haha, isnt basic channel mainly Techno though?
That tune you posted is probs just gonna confuse the guy even more though haha. The beat is obvs very funky and lively, and not techno, but then the synth chords are very repetitive and techno like lol
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:57 pm
by mks
This is considered a House track. Classic tune.
Broken Beat and Deep House are two of the styles I have been producing for a long time now and they mix together so well. I just consider it all in a range of syncopated and not as syncopated.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:17 pm
by dickman69
mks wrote:
This is considered a House track. Classic tune.
Broken Beat and Deep House are two of the styles I have been producing for a long time now and they mix together so well. I just consider it all in a range of syncopated and not as syncopated.
wow how could i forget that w/ the non 4x4
remind me of this 1 too
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:11 pm
by AxeD
hutyluty wrote:
AxeD wrote: It's not like we're getting paid to educate these people
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loooooooool
Yeah, that probably came across a bit schmuck
Anyway I don't get what the deal is. Listen to a set from Luke Slater and one by Moodymann, that's your difference.
Of course there's things that cross-over, but Guetta and whatever are pop imo. Not house.
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:32 pm
by skimpi
so like, is deadmau5 techno or house?
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:53 pm
by chekov
wow can't believe i've never heard that gil scott heron and moodymann track before
Re: Ignorant House/Techno question.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:04 am
by dickman69
skimpi wrote:so like, is deadmau5 techno or house?