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Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:19 pm
by Devilsindub
mIrReN wrote:prisoner wrote:you fucked up if you're working at Subway trying to make ends meet. take responsibility for that. it's not Subways fault.
these guys were on npr today asking to be paid $15/hr. get the fuck out.
another guy said he'd been working at a burger king for like 6 years and only got a .15 raise that whole time. that sucks. seriously.
but why the fuck did you not look elsewhere for work?
if you don't have skills, you're not going to make a very good living. and you probably shouldn't expect to.
Is it unreasonable to ask for a decent wage so you can actually live and breath? Don't have to worry all the time etc
Of course you're not going to make a very good living but you should be able to expect to make a living.
There can be numberous reasons as to why you're stuck to such a shitjob. Is it not subways fault
they're making millions yet all their staff seems to be underpayed? Of course not because that's
how the world runs right...
Fucking conglomerates! I'm not so fond of pure socialism but we really need to do something about our competitive market. It's not really competitive because all of these companies are monopolizing and evading the laws against monopolizing the market by giving bussinness owners private portions of their franchise and taking a huge percentage of their income.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:29 pm
by collige
prisoner wrote:you fucked up if you're working at Subway trying to make ends meet. take responsibility for that. it's not Subways fault.
these guys were on npr today asking to be paid $15/hr. get the fuck out.
another guy said he'd been working at a burger king for like 6 years and only got a .15 raise that whole time. that sucks. seriously.
but why the fuck did you not look elsewhere for work?
there was this bunch of idiots that got fired from a local independent liquor store for being late, lazy, etc.
they started picketing and tried to sue the business to get their jobs back, and were demanding $18/hr or something ridiculous.
what planet do these people live on?
if you don't have skills, you're not going to make a very good living. and you probably shouldn't expect to.
Someone is always going to be working for Subway trying to make ends meet unless Subway suddenly doesn't require workers.
A fair day's way for a fair day's work. Why do you think it's acceptable for an employer to pay a full time worker so little that they can't afford to support themselves, especially when they're turning a huge profit? The minimum wage is less than it was 30 years ago.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:32 pm
by mIrReN
tbf I would care more about the people working for them then about the competitiveness of the market
who gives a shit about money/companies when there's lives/livelihood at stake
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:50 pm
by Devilsindub
mIrReN wrote:tbf I would care more about the people working for them then about the competitiveness of the market
who gives a shit about money/companies when there's lives/livelihood at stake
Oh yeah man I totally agree. It's kind of all relative though. If our market was balanced correctly, which means applying the rules of a none monopolistic economy, then these franchise owners wouldn't have to hand over so much money to these monster conglomerates. This would give business owners an opportunity to hire more workers and give higher wages.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:28 pm
by hutyluty
signals wrote:protest is a plannot, i couldnt find anything
idk why signals but you crack me up so much
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:47 am
by nousd
It's simple:
making a profit
from other people's squalor
is reprehensible.
Resisting collective efforts
to improve their lot,
is at least immoral
and ultimately criminal.
...whatever a franchisee's rationalization
for underpaying it's workers
on the basis of excessive profit projections
by undercharging fast food junkies.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:40 pm
by DRTY
why not
just write
sentences?
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:49 pm
by Devilsindub
DRTY wrote:why not
just write
sentences?
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:51 pm
by Devilsindub
sd5 wrote:It's simple:
making a profit
from other people's squalor
is reprehensible.
Resisting collective efforts
to improve their lot,
is at least immoral
and ultimately criminal.
...whatever a franchisee's rationalization
for underpaying it's workers
on the basis of excessive profit projections
by undercharging fast food junkies.
Tbf even in the bazaar structure you wrote your post it makes a lot of sense.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:43 am
by DrSpliff
I earn South African minimum wage, working in a retail store. 6 days a week, with 1 weekend off a month. No clothing packages are provided so I'm forced to buy clothes to work in. Bosses do everything they can to fuck us out of our incentives, I've never been paid my incentives that I've earned. I'll put it straight out there.
I earn 300 dollars a month for working those hours.
When I was living in Europe I could afford my own little apartment and I was getting by fine. No chance for that here, I've moved back in with my mother.
I feel like if I stay here I'm going to have to turn to selling drugs. So I'm taking every last cent I've managed to save and my music equiptment and moving to England.
Story over.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:24 pm
by test_recordings
You think you'll get a job in the UK? Think again mate
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:51 pm
by MrBlack
^Of course he will.........................MY JEERRBBBB!!!!!
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:50 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
test recordings wrote:You think you'll get a job in the UK? Think again mate
This, skilled people here are finding it hard getting unskilled work, the competition for low paid jobs is a joke and jobs that actually pay a wage are like moon dust.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:53 pm
by wub
They should just lower the criteria for what is considered middle class, would lift millions out of poverty instantly.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:03 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
wub wrote:They should just lower the criteria for what is considered middle class, would lift millions out of poverty instantly.
Tories are already on that one, apparently if you have a flat panel TV, you shouldn't require any type of benefits, if there's unused sky dish on your wall, one is to assume it's accompanied by an indoor swimming pool.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:10 pm
by test_recordings
Pedro Sánchez wrote:wub wrote:They should just lower the criteria for what is considered middle class, would lift millions out of poverty instantly.
Tories are already on that one, apparently if you have a flat panel TV, you shouldn't require any type of benefits, if there's unused sky dish on your wall, one is to assume it's accompanied by an indoor swimming pool.
Got a link? I don't think people should be assessed on their assets below a certain level. You could have picked it up in second-hand for 100 quid, you could save up all year on the dole for that or even have been given the fucking thing
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:16 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
test recordings wrote:Pedro Sánchez wrote:wub wrote:They should just lower the criteria for what is considered middle class, would lift millions out of poverty instantly.
Tories are already on that one, apparently if you have a flat panel TV, you shouldn't require any type of benefits, if there's unused sky dish on your wall, one is to assume it's accompanied by an indoor swimming pool.
Got a link? I don't think people should be assessed on their assets below a certain level. You could have picked it up in second-hand for 100 quid, you could save up all year on the dole for that or even have been given the fucking thing
It was some minister last year who try to propose a benefit type card that would replace cash and could only be spent on (as they see it) essentials things like food and bills, the mail of course jumped all over this with their usual uneducated plumb-mouthed garbage.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:36 pm
by alphacat
...Leading back to the
B.I.G..
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:14 pm
by DrSpliff
Pedro Sánchez wrote:test recordings wrote:You think you'll get a job in the UK? Think again mate
This, skilled people here are finding it hard getting unskilled work, the competition for low paid jobs is a joke and jobs that actually pay a wage are like moon dust.
I understand what you guys are saying, though that's how it is here anyways. I know loads of people who've moved over there and thrived, infact all my friends who have moved to the UK have found work and say it's easier to find work there compared to South Africa.
Re: the working poor in the US stand up
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:52 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
DrSpliff wrote:Pedro Sánchez wrote:test recordings wrote:You think you'll get a job in the UK? Think again mate
This, skilled people here are finding it hard getting unskilled work, the competition for low paid jobs is a joke and jobs that actually pay a wage are like moon dust.
I understand what you guys are saying, though that's how it is here anyways. I know loads of people who've moved over there and thrived, infact all my friends who have moved to the UK have found work and say it's easier to find work there compared to South Africa.
If working in a sweatshop or kebab shop for minimum wage that leaves you broke at the end of the month (unless it's 5 to a bedroom sharing potnoodles in a Newcastle squat) is thriving then yes, come here and fill your boots, the UK is about to get an influx of newer EU migrant workers, so you should be aware hostility towards migrants is high and there is ever more pressure on employers to supply young unemployed nationals with work so it might not be land of opportunity you're hearing about.