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ghosttown wrote:Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

osiris techno = great for thinking music? come one man...

baddis98 wrote:

ghosttown wrote:Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

osiris techno = great for thinking music? come one man...

Where in that quote did I say Osiris? Even though, in my opinion they are releasing some great music.

The Dubstep side of things Gantz and Commodo and a few others are making forward thinking music, and trying something different rather than a twisted bass which KM was doing 5 years ago.

ghosttown wrote: [...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

you might admit this statement can easily be understood as "Si and Killawatt's [uninspiring] take on techno is pushing dubstep forward".

badman vip release killed KM.

i listen to both the albums quite a lot, really enjoy them, but yeah, havn't been feeling the whole osiris thing for quite some time now, so yeah, this could quite possibly be a positive.

best of luck to both!

BlueyTeamTom wrote:badman vip release killed KM.

What makes you say that?

Jurkhands wrote:how is bait techno helping dubstep? serious question.

You realize headhunter's sound is based heavily on techno?

some tunes off nomad are techno

CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

Jurkhands wrote:CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

OK, so we have established you don't like that style of Techno, it doesn't mean it is 'bait'. I'm sure if stores like Hardwax thought it was totally unoriginal or bait, they wouldn't of called it 'awesome.'

wouldn't sell many plates by calling them shit now would they

Jurkhands wrote:

ghosttown wrote: [...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

you might admit this statement can easily be understood as "Si and Killawatt's [uninspiring] take on techno is pushing dubstep forward".

would still like you to clear this up for me

Jurkhands wrote:wouldn't sell many plates by calling them shit now would they

There are many records they don't stock. So rather than call them 'shit' they just don't stock them. Simple.

Jurkhands wrote:

Jurkhands wrote:

ghosttown wrote: [...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

you might admit this statement can easily be understood as "Si and Killawatt's [uninspiring] take on techno is pushing dubstep forward".

would still like you to clear this up for me

There is nothing to clear up.

Jurkhands wrote:CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

not sure what you're saying here tbh ha.

I listen to quite a lot of techno and have no idea who osiris is - techno is a huge genre and there's so much music it's impossible to follow it all.

Tho even for me some of the overdriven/drone/eastern European techno isn't for me, but there is A LOT of techno that is for me.

yo Capture Pt. Osiris is Kryptic Minds' label. I was purely concentrating on naming some examples for in my oppinion good and successful experiments to incorporate techno elements into dubstep. and again, in my oppinion, the recent output on Osiris has mostly been a tutorial on how not to do that.

ghosttown wrote: There are many records they don't stock. So rather than call them 'shit' they just don't stock them. Simple.

yeah, because fuck economic reason. as long as Osiris keeps its integrity as an "underground label", the usual places will still stock them, because somehow there is a demand. doesn't make the tunes any better though. in my oppinion.

agree to disagree or w/e

Jurkhands wrote:yo Capture Pt. Osiris is Kryptic Minds' label. I was purely concentrating on naming some examples for in my oppinion good and successful experiments to incorporate techno elements into dubstep. and again, in my oppinion, the recent output on Osiris has mostly been a tutorial on how not to do that.

ghosttown wrote: There are many records they don't stock. So rather than call them 'shit' they just don't stock them. Simple.

yeah, because fuck economic reason. as long as Osiris keeps its integrity as an "underground label", the usual places will still stock them, because somehow there is a demand. doesn't make the tunes any better though. in my oppinion.

agree to disagree or w/e

I'm pretty sure they won't lose any sleep because you don't like Osiris, they have done pretty well with out your support.

I will continue to support.

tru supporters stick with their team in its darkest hours. hopefully together you may find a way out of this hellish place that is average techno.

Jurkhands wrote:tru supporters stick with their team in its darkest hours. hopefully together you may find a way out of this hellish place that is average techno.

You really are annoying!

Hopefully your positive outlook will help move Dubstep forward.

dubstepforum killed dubstep

MUT3 wrote:dubstepforum killed dubstep

I pretty much think Jurkhead or what ever his name is had a hand in it.