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jesslem wrote:Well, space more. Without time or space there would be no way for anyone or anything to exist.

Proof?

As we know it I guess.
But the point was that if we don't have time, then events cannot occur.
If we don't have space, then there would be no where for anything to be.
Put the two scenarios together and you've got nothing. Put their opposites together and you have everything we do, did or probably ever will know.

nowaysj wrote:

jesslem wrote:Well, space more. Without time or space there would be no way for anyone or anything to exist.

Proof?

You're going all Solipsism wise man, been there many a time.
Rarely reported, but that we discovered gravity waves, hence the proof of the big bang has been enormous.

Point still stands. The Big Bang is really just a point in time where things began to be and interact, which still can't happen without time and space.

thread should be deep talking

jesslem wrote:Point still stands. The Big Bang is really just a point in time where things began to be and interact, which still can't happen without time and space.

Well considering the big bang is our point of understanding of the universe creation and it may just be a drip in the bucket and to humanities understanding there is more outside the bubble of the cosmos, we're limited to what we know unless like I said Solipsism, the theory that everything is a construct of our individual mind.

If it isn't clear that I'm not talking about creation, but more of the facts of what we know purely by facts of matter, then I hope this post makes it so.
But to address your argument, where would modern cosmology be without the concept of time and space? Nowhere.

The less practical/everyday your thinking is the deeper it is. No lines to be drawn or cutoffs to be applied imo.

not thinking I consider 'deep thinking'. your not thinking with your inner monologue, you are experiencing. feeling every little shift the surroundings plays with the structure of your sensations. everything else is neurotic prattle..

until they put the cuffs on you.
covered in chicken blood.
chicken rape they call it.
love-freedom to you.

That's not thinking, that's observation.

do you only think in words? can you not think in sensations? I observe with my eyes but thats not the only process happening. all the information I need to process is outside of me. being internal the words only hypothesise.

Sensations aren't thoughts, they're sensations. We can think about sensations but they aren't an adequate means to thinking because, as you said, they're outside of us.

jesslem wrote:Sensations aren't thoughts, they're sensations. We can think about sensations but they aren't an adequate means to thinking because, as you said, they're outside of us.

thoughts are created by/linked with sensation. think about sex..

outside stimuli are apparent to my internal sensations therefore there effect on my person is my sensations thinking in terms of the atmosphere/landscape of sensations.

im sorry but that is a horrible argument. Where does your premises and conclusions start and end? Stop using word play and start arguing.

jesslem wrote:____

im sorry but that is a horrible argument. Where does your premises and conclusions start and end? Stop using word play and start arguing.

It wasn't one.

Anything that occupies your mind for over a week is deep thinking to me.

deadly habit wrote:Anything that occupies your mind for over a week is deep thinking to me.

I think it would be cool if you made a "post your deepest thoughts" thread with that definition in mind.

jesslem wrote:

deadly habit wrote:Anything that occupies your mind for over a week is deep thinking to me.

I think it would be cool if you made a "post your deepest thoughts" thread with that definition in mind.

If you haven't guessed most of mine are related to the cosmos, I'm fortunate enough to have gotten a ticket to see Neil DeGrasse Tyson speak long before the revised Cosmos aired. I just hope to ask him one question and get one of his books signed post it.
His Cosmic Quandaries speech always leaves me pondering


Between him, Dawkins, Hawking, and Oscar Wilde my book reading is always full. Sagan as well.


I love pondering how small we are in the cosmos and how limited are conception of that around us is in comparison to the cosmos.