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Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:12 am
by nowaysj
sd5 wrote:US Airforce now creating red herrings
by searching the Indian Ocean
Military radar tracked an object for an hour after they disappeared.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:42 am
by garethom
You know when people on DSF say stuff like that ^^^ and stuff about Monsanto buying elections? Is there any source for this? We need some sort of speculation tag to separate it.

Not saying they're lying, I just wanna know.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:45 am
by nowaysj
I've seen sources for 1 and 4 hours. If my heart doesn't explode in the next hour and a half as I finish up dsf#43, maybe I'll regoogle the issue ;)

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:40 am
by Riddles
US officials said that because two separate communication systems were shut down separately, the plane did not suffer a catastrophic accident.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:45 am
by nowaysj
garethom wrote:You know when people on DSF say stuff like that ^^^ and stuff about Monsanto buying elections? Is there any source for this? We need some sort of speculation tag to separate it.

Not saying they're lying, I just wanna know.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 3903086282

An excerpt if it is too difficult to click that link:
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU +2.13% Flight 370 stayed in the air for up to four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Former FBI agent Chris Voss joins the News Hub to discuss U.S. investigators' suspicions that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for four hours after vanishing from civilian air-traffic control radar.

The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of up to five hours, according to these people, based on analysis of signals sent by the Boeing BA -2.04% 777's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of certain onboard systems to the ground.

Throughout the roughly four hours after the jet dropped from civilian radar screens, these people said, the link operated in a kind of standby mode and sought to establish contact with a satellite or satellites. These transmissions did not include data, they said, but the periodic contacts indicate to investigators that the plane was still intact and believed to be flying.
I'm sure you're inclined to trust this source because it is owned by Rupert Murdoch. I do not, as I'm sure you would guess. :lol:

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:13 am
by garethom
nowaysj wrote:I'm sure you're inclined to trust this source because it is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
You know nothing of me!

Also, question that probably has a really obvious answer that's evading me. Why can you even turn transponders, etc. off? Why is that an option?

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:14 am
by Forum
garethom wrote:
nowaysj wrote:I'm sure you're inclined to trust this source because it is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
You know nothing of me!

Also, question that probably has a really obvious answer that's evading me. Why can you even turn transponders, etc. off? Why is that an option?
For flying stealth over N. Korea obviously

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:17 am
by nowaysj
There are a lot of reasons, but primarily for when the planes are on the ground, in busy airports.

But the engine feedback system does not turn off, and that is what apparently persisted.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:20 am
by garethom
nowaysj wrote:There are a lot of reasons, but primarily for when the planes are on the ground, in busy airports.
Yeah, that's understandable, not sure of a good, non-shady reason why it should be turned off in flight though.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:24 am
by particle-jim
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I think Giorgio Tsoukalos hijacked it

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:38 am
by nowaysj
garethom wrote:
nowaysj wrote:There are a lot of reasons, but primarily for when the planes are on the ground, in busy airports.
Yeah, that's understandable, not sure of a good, non-shady reason why it should be turned off in flight though.
There are a few reasons I can think of. One of the early things I read was the transponder was turned of, and then a moment later was turned back on, but 4,000 feet higher.

I'm not going to source that for you. Just something I read. Who knows?

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:45 am
by garethom
Nah, not asking what happened. Just wondering why they would make transponders that have the option of being turned off in-flight.

Big up to aircraft signalling manufacturers, for too long have we had to suffer heteronormative-ponders.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:49 am
by nowaysj
‘Act of piracy’ behind Malaysian flight disappearance, US official says
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http://rt.com/usa/malaysia-airlines-pir ... ntion-926/
The Associated Press is reporting that an official in the United States speaking on condition of anonymity believes it’s possible that “an act of piracy” may have diverted a Malaysia Airlines jetliner last weekend.

According to the AP, the unnamed official says there’s key evidence that “human intervention” played a role in whatever happened to the Boeing 777 that mysteriously disappeared around an hour after departing Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing on Saturday.

“This official says that it's also possible the plane may have landed somewhere,” AP journalist Joan Lowy reported Friday afternoon. “The official wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter and spoke only if not identified,” she said.

A day earlier, Bloomberg News claimed US investigators were treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, according to one source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

“I can’t think of a single example of a large airplane completely disappearing without seemingly leaving a trace for this many days,” Hans Weber, a San Diego-based consultant, told Bloomberg.

The AP’s latest theory concerning the lost place comes amid a wave of reports — many conflicting — that continue to cause confusion around the globe about the whereabouts and condition of the jetliner and the 239 people who boarded it in Kuala Lumpur.

On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal published a report that suggested Flight MH370 may have stayed in the air for four-to-five hours after air traffic controllers lost contact with the cockpit. The AP later corroborated that claim, and said a US official briefed on the search said that the plane sent signals for four hours after it initially disappeared.

"It's like when your cellphone is off but it still sends out a little 'I'm here' message to the cellphone network," that official said. "That's how sometimes they can triangulate your position even though you're not calling because the phone every so often sends out a little bleep. That's sort of what this thing was doing."

Jay Carney, the official spokesperson for the White House, said during a press briefing also on Thursday that “There are a number of possible scenarios that are being investigated as to what happened to the flight,” but failed to elaborate beyond that much further aside from acknowledging reports that suggested the search area was being extended much further west than where investigators first looked.
And I would like to point out that Jay Carney is probably a second or third cousin, as my beard is going gray in EXACTLY the same places, like follicle for follicle.
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I'd also like to point out, that I am reading information COMPLETELY contrary to this.

Also reading that the jet went above the service altitude (around 45k feet), meaning that the passengers likely passed out or were killed by lack of oxygen.

It is not strange that this plane disappeared, actually, it is pretty strange. But shit happens. People are always shooting down jet liners. But what is strange is the complete flood of contradictory information. I've never seen so much around a single incident.

Meanwhile in the Crimea, that shit is escalating precipitously.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:39 am
by sigbowls
it was bronys/ people with aspergers. hacked the plain

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:50 am
by nowaysj
nowaysj wrote:Freescale, owned by Carlyle Group.
http://money.msn.com/business-news/arti ... d=17395474

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:34 am
by Phigure

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:41 am
by nowaysj
Viet Nam has an official statement to make. Press conference inbound.

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:49 am
by cloaked_up
It crashed in the Indian ocean
All on board are dead
Any more theories from the rescinded academics?

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:20 pm
by DiegoSapiens
and how did the radar turn off before it crashed^
i think that is probably kidnaped

Re: Flight MH370

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:47 pm
by OGLemon
kidnap ---> crash
imo