Elliot Rodger

[titchbit]

smh nwj.

you're not helping your case.

[nowaysj]

You're mistaken dude, I don't have a case.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

tldr someone plz

i dont watch tv or read the newspaper.

kid kills several people. turns out he left a trail of weird/creepy/fedora-ish blog/forum posts and youtube vids complaining he wasn't getting any/plotting his 'revenge'. national debate on misogynism and gun control ensues


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cheers mate, guy sounds like a right tnuc.

[kaili]

whats the difference between an egg and elliott rodger?
an egg gets laid before it cracks

[nitz]

People certainly have been talking about prostitution in regards to this. It was one of the first things I heard. First, of course being that we can't have these knives available to just anyone.

Prostitution would not have helped this guy. It is not just sexual frustration. In all honesty he could have masturbated all he wanted to satisfy sexual needs. What he needed was belonging, engagement, connectedness to society. It is a grim fuck that doesn't need that. He needed it badly, maybe even more than most.

BUT dude was off his rocker. He undoubtedly had unending opportunities for engagement, but he could not do it. He could not figure out how it works, human relations. So he created barriers and fixations around the issue. All self erected. At a certain point, he wasn't even looking for connection, it just turned into an abstraction, a fixation on an concept - a mental loop.

But again, remember, I think he was actually possessed by Lucifer, as well as I don't believe he was a real person. His online identity seems too thin and contrived, I'm also curious how his little punk ass killed three people with a knife, also several witnesses as well as police mentioned two shooters. Unsurprisingly.

But what is the deal with him getting beat up, like, a year ago? Anyone hear anything about that? Supposedly that is when he really hatched this plan of revenge.

yes i think i heard he got kicked out of a party or something like that. don't quote me on that though.

but seriously NWJ what the fuck? "possessed by Lucifer?" is that some kind of joke? "don't believe he was a real person"? is that like, a metaphor for him having a fake/artificial personality? trying to be a patrick bateman character to feel more important than he actually is? or are you getting into some conspiracy shit here? i also didn't hear anything about knives...."we can't have these knives available to just anyone." what the hell does that mean?



anyway, i think prostitution would have helped him. i would bet he would feel more emotional connection through the act of sex, even if it is paid for. plus he clearly had a family, probably some friends, definitely at least acquaintances - it's not like he was a total recluse - he was a college student. i think it was mainly the lack of sex that got to him. i do agree with what you said about the "mental loop" though. that's definitely true.

Yeah he was at some sort of party and tried to push some girls of a balcony > broke in foot/ankle in the process and then when home. Then he remembered that he forgot his gucci sunglasses at the party so when back got them and the same guys saw him and beat up, badly one can assume. I think that shows some insight into his sallow life that his gucci sunglasses were more important than his safely. If you tried to kill/semi kill a few chicks at a party and just made it out alive that's a blessing, but when you remember you forgot your sunglasses fuck what reasonable person would go back to get them and risk his life?

Also, in his MIND he thought sex was paramount and therefore buy not getting it it was slowing killing him. I think deeper down, he wanted a connection with people which was just a mask for sex. Lack of social interaction can kill people certainty. asexual people are those who are not interested in sex yet they go around killing people. Thus, in the mind he had created this idea what sex was important has air/water/food and thus the lack of it slowing did him in.

[wub]

It was more the fact he felt he was entitled to sex because he was a white gentleman who drove a nice car. The comments about black/indian guys who he felt were 'ugly' compared to himself getting female attention when he wasn't smack of racism because he seems to think he's above these people and therefore deserves what they are unjustly getting.

[lovelydivot]

I'm gonna have to disagree with the prostitution thing here ...

I'm going to say that prostitution is a result of
the same mentality that created this kid...

Thinking that ramming up in some random pussy is what it's about...

Now it is true that in some remote and ultra sophisticated part of France
- there are a few extremely talented females who are more like psychiatrist
who could probably sort some of these socio-paths with their skill in - sexual understanding...

But those ladies-I dare say-are the rarest of all.

A disgustingly misguided money grubbing teen...
or a serious victim of human traffic

- would just reinforce his soulless dislocation.


I mean come on - "...women get to decide who reproduces on this planet."

That's a fucking incredible mindset right there…(puts on battle helmet)

[lovelydivot]

I smelt a tinge of conspiracy on this too..and some other news stories…

But who's to say?

Social Engineering via the news/television/media….

I wouldn't be surprised…



Everytime I accidentally catch Fox News - I think I'm watching a joke…

…reminds me of the antagonist from the Fountain Head…

It's something weird and old - and needs to be done - meaning ended, ceased
in favor of honest communications.


Does anyone here ever think that drugs, various illicit substances - and their proliferation…
might be a sponsored experiment? To test the psyche of the people? Randomly.

Sometimes I get that.

Just for a minute though…I'm not terribly paranoid.

[lovelydivot]

I just watched the Elliot Rodgers manifesto/video…

- dude sounds like a child.

[butter_man]

ramming up in some random pussy is what it's about...

is that the first thing you think of when you think of sex. maybe with a stranger?

the universe collapses into two opposing and accepting forces. there is no past or future just the moment where two people get as close as any other two human has been before, up to the cusp of non-existence and dissolution of the ego. the oneness. the egg. the warmth, almost paternal/maternal comfort. sacred to the landscape that defies logic of the flesh and stretches out infinitely, plaines of sensation echoing across eternity.
and then you cum.
clean up, go about your business knowing that your like everyone else.
you got sum.
pussy.

[lovelydivot]

ramming up in some random pussy is what it's about...

is that the first thing you think of when you think of sex. maybe with a stranger?

the universe collapses into two opposing and accepting forces. there is no past or future just the moment where two people get as close as any other two human has been before, up to the cusp of non-existence and dissolution of the ego. the oneness. the egg. the warmth, almost paternal/maternal comfort. sacred to the landscape that defies logic of the flesh and stretches out infinitely, plaines of sensation echoing across eternity.
and then you cum.
clean up, go about your business knowing that your like everyone else.
you got sum.
pussy.

Right Exactly - I'm not about to do that with just anyone.

I'd rather impart that service onto the arm of my sofa...
than some creeper with their hand on my wallet.

[butter_man]

than some creeper with their hand on my wallet.

you mean socailly inept person.
Im guessing its the attitude that exasperates the problem.
you may not want to do it. does that mean theres not people out there who wouldnt.
some days I could be a man whore.
other days Id wash dishes.
be gentle with my tush tho hunny.

[lovelydivot]

Everyone is entitled to their sexuality…

I'm just not into treating others like accoutrements.
paraphernalia.

….dildos

I know - some people would like to be the dildo du jour…

Yes, Some people like to be hung naked from the ceiling with a whip out their butt…
Yes, I'm going to hesitate in calling that normal...

Do we have to embrace all manner of expressions to be democratic?

I'm not saying people can't do all this…
But I'm saying don't be so fast to enlist the first needy girl child.

the sliding spectrum of normalization

look - I'm american - Our entire belief system - (the cool peoples belief system)
...is hinged around disastrous amounts of…free wheeling experimention.
We are the original space cowboys - but the pendulum does swing back…

[titchbit]

Lovelydivot, what are you talking about?

[wub]

Lovelydivot, what are you talking about?

There's a hole with no bottom.

[lovelydivot]

Right - If culture is the bomb…
and you wanna ride a wicked one down…
Americans will let you…

but that doesn't mean a whole bunch of us aren't going to step aside...
when your stupid shit blows…

Don't drink the bad dog water…I'm not saying this to deprive you of choice.

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[titchbit]

......sometimes this happens to threads i guess.

[lovelydivot]

I'm not the one running around shooting people because I'm mad…

I have meaningful relationships….

Just not with every third guy…
or everytime an egg busts chemicals to my brain….
or with every random blonde girl I see with ugly indian dude.


Show me a prostitute that's having meaningful relationships with her Johns…

[titchbit]

yes but you also have something called "word salad."

[lovelydivot]

Are we talking about the same thing here...Prostitution….?!?

Prostitution is the answer….@16.48

European hookers are different maybe…?!

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