dubstep made by drum & bass producers...

cloak and dagger · Post by **cloak and dagger** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:29 pm

haha maybe these aren't dubstep then =P

dramageddon · Post by **dramageddon** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:43 pm

Ive been making a bit of dub/breaks/electronica and I love it ... drum and bass is far too restrictive these days and alot of people are up their own arse and their tracks are shit anyway...
like to have a few views on this bit im working on www.myspace.com/tempo78 still work in progress but feedback would be nice.

Made a dNb thing the other day with my partner in crime 1st bit in 6 years.. its 174 but broken half tempo www.myspace.com/dramageddon called Port Future .. the amen thing on there is from 2000.

dylan nocturnal · Post by **dylan nocturnal** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:18 pm

Lohan wrote:Ok......
I think you need to 'let go' of the D+B in your head when approaching a Dubstep track

i wouldnt let go of any of your influences mate, just keep banging, i dont know anything about grubstep, but i do know that all music come from influence...

scaramanga · Post by **scaramanga** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:58 pm

i'm also a dnb producer whgo has started making dubstep

interested to hear ur reaction to my things

2 of which are here >>> www.myspace.com/titansoundz

check the tunes "Butchers Block" and "Nik Nak"

cheers

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:59 pm

^^at Cloak and Dagger:

Tunes are pretty good man.

I agree with some of the posts above though - the drums are quite rigid sounding, loses a bit of the pace.

Quite busy sounding, but heavy drum sounds!

Dunno about the reese bassline tho...

protocolx · Post by **protocolx** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:05 pm

dylan nocturnal wrote:
Lohan wrote:Ok......
I think you need to 'let go' of the D+B in your head when approaching a Dubstep track
i wouldnt let go of any of your influences mate, just keep banging, i dont know anything about grubstep, but i do know that all music come from influence...

are u turning ure hands 2 dubstep lately, Dylan?

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:15 am

just do your thing. don't give a shit what everyone says. it's your music anyway.

imagine · Post by **imagine** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:28 am

hmmmm iv listened to a few tracks by dnb producers......

i think you can afford to have a lot more space in dubstep mixdowns than you can in dnb these day.

i am a dnb producer myself, i am currently working on a load of dubstep stuff & finding it very liberating

el cubist · Post by **el cubist** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:14 pm

to me they sound just fine. keep on it.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:25 pm

if you listen to early horsepower or even the latest mystikz stuff, the common thread is sub and simplicity. too much dnb these days is way too over edited and full of too many elements. people like calibre or matrix for example could probably come up with some heavy dubstep because their dnb is not so bashed up with reeces, buildups and drops coming at you every 16 bars.

lohan · Post by **lohan** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:43 pm

Don't take that out of context. When I say 'Let go of the DnB', I mean your approach to building a track. I dont mean forget your roots, draw from whatever you can, like I said to you mate, it's all good, just keep cracking on with the tracks. Do your thing, your take on the sound. what else is there? you get me?

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:06 pm

seckle wrote:if you listen to early horsepower or even the latest mystikz stuff, the common thread is sub and simplicity. too much dnb these days is way too over edited and full of too many elements. people like calibre or matrix for example could probably come up with some heavy dubstep because their dnb is not so bashed up with reeces, buildups and drops coming at you every 16 bars.

Have you checked out C&D's Guerilla Warfare tune on Intasound? Heavy track, got a real halfstep vibe to it.

As I said on subvert central, think Haze is heavy, Marked not so much.

I wrote:The beats and atmospheric sounds in Haze are really good. The trumpet at the end is genius - really, really cool.

Two criticisms - the reese sound and the reese melody are so drum and bass it's impossible not to think of it. Even if I didn't know it was by you, I'd be pretty certain it was by a drum and bass producer. Also, I don't think the reggae-style stabs work.. I reckon the "dub" part of dubstep misleads people a bit.

Basically, a wicked tune. Would love to see it released.

Not into Marked though.. it's quite fast and a bit cluttered, and doesn't really have the vibe of the best dubstep stuff in my opinion. I don't like it for the same reasons I dislike Kryptic Minds/Leon Switch/Limewax and all the rest. I know what people are saying with the Vex'd comparison, but the Vex'd sound is very different to this. Even though its hard stuff, it's still got space and is very funky...

And as someone else said, if this had been made by a big name, the reaction on here would've been totally different...

cloak and dagger · Post by **cloak and dagger** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:34 am

thanks again guys! really diggin' the feedback

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:23 am

seckle wrote:if you listen to early horsepower or even the latest mystikz stuff, the common thread is sub and simplicity. too much dnb these days is way too over edited and full of too many elements. people like calibre or matrix for example could probably come up with some heavy dubstep because their dnb is not so bashed up with reeces, buildups and drops coming at you every 16 bars.

I tend to agree with the stuff about Calibre. I do like very agressive music though. Love hardcore, love a lot of really nasty amen stuff... but I also love downtempo, jazz, etc...

the point is, I really love to have my music handed to me on occassion. Not very often, but sometimes I want some music that I don't have to think about or feel. Just something to move my ass fast to. On those rare occassions when < 140 won't do, I will kick on some schranz techno or some really nasty drum n bass.

I would think that people who make the darker stuff would be better at working with the gritty, wobbling basslines. and those who make the smoother stuff would be able to make some more chill business... but only someone who can really appreciate all of the various places dubstep comes from and can handle breaking a few bad habits will be able to make anything that has the apprpriate space to be considered "dubstep"

sek [espionage] · Post by **sek [espionage]** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:41 pm

did'nt get a chance to download this.
but the dubstep attempts by dnb producers I've heard thus far haven't really been all that imo.

too much going on, too many ghost snares, hats.. I think many on them think in "layering" mode. While layering does great things for dnb, I would imagine that dubstep is more about strategic placement than clutter.

...wouldn't mind hearing some techno producers take a stab at dubstep.
after all, when they went from techno to dnb kemal and rob data was the result <3

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