Parson...

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:30 pm

SilentK wrote:
Shonky wrote:
Spellfire wrote:I have dreams about cider.
Big pints of red cider on the beach yusssss.
Now this is more like it. More cider less jiggery-pokery thank you kindly
ahem, my thread, my rules, the cider is out. unless you can combine cider with deep thought?

I can as it happens although it's very difficult to communicate my revelations and they never seem to make as much sense the next day for some reason.

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:31 pm

Shonky wrote:
SilentK wrote:
Shonky wrote:
Spellfire wrote:I have dreams about cider.
Big pints of red cider on the beach yusssss.
Now this is more like it. More cider less jiggery-pokery thank you kindly
ahem, my thread, my rules, the cider is out. unless you can combine cider with deep thought?
I can as it happens although it's very difficult to communicate my revelations and they never seem to make as much sense the next day for some reason.

give it a try

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:34 pm

It was something about dogs, letter boxes, boats, the sky and scaffolding. And some vomit I think. And unexplained bruises

It was quite similar to being abducted by aliens I imagine

misk · Post by **misk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:43 pm

EMU wrote:ive got lots of crazy random dreams but the theme that happens the most (at least that i remember) is finding huge wads or bags of cash. making away with it. and then waking up broke.

what about leaving your favorite piece of gear out in the rain? have that one a lot.

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:45 pm

Misk wrote:
EMU wrote:ive got lots of crazy random dreams but the theme that happens the most (at least that i remember) is finding huge wads or bags of cash. making away with it. and then waking up broke.
what about leaving your favorite piece of gear out in the rain? have that one a lot.

why was it outside in the firstplace? lol

misk · Post by **misk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:50 pm

its a dream, i dont really know...

@ this thread

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:51 pm

Misk wrote:its a dream, i dont really know...

@ this thread

ill take that as a compliment

emu · Post by **emu** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:02 pm

Misk wrote:
EMU wrote:ive got lots of crazy random dreams but the theme that happens the most (at least that i remember) is finding huge wads or bags of cash. making away with it. and then waking up broke.
what about leaving your favorite piece of gear out in the rain? have that one a lot.

nah never anything like that. i did dream that i was robocop once (from robocop 3 cuz i could fly) and saving people stranded in boats because the ice caps melted and turned the earth into a waterworld

emu · Post by **emu** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:03 pm

SilentK wrote:
EMU wrote:i tried keeping one for a while...only wrote down 3 dreams though. this was right after my first and only lucid dream experience. and that was 2 days after my first and only absinthe experience heheh.
will try and get back on it.
Lucid dreaming sounds like teh secks
now if only i had the slef discipline to actually try and achieve it

yeah i got way too excited cuz as soon as i became lucid i looked to my right, looked down this hallway and there were two hot chicks in their underwear doing their hair in the mirror. i ran up to them. started making out with them, and woke up. should have paced myself. lol

blizzardmusic · Post by **blizzardmusic** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:05 pm

Can I just apologise to Parson for being stupid in that thread before...

Sorry, I kept feeling like a dickhead.

Back to the topic (I hope)...

bashment dan · Post by **bashment dan** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:18 pm

i know this is quite unrelated to the discussion but heres a site i think y'all appreciate http://www.ted.com/
..tosses around loads of good ideas and deep thought

emu · Post by **emu** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:24 pm

^^^^yeah man i love that site, always cures my boredom!!!

bashment dan · Post by **bashment dan** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:28 pm

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:29 pm

Dun Noe bout da TED!

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:32 pm

Parson wrote:its hard to really empty your mind.

there's all kinds of techniques

if you really want to try some techniques out, i'd recoommend googling and seeing what suits you

do not try to do anything- including emptying your mind. sit still, breath, and observe your thoughts. eventually they will end and the space between them will become apparent. Some interesting things will come about as a result of this.

(been meditating daily for almost 5 years)

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:41 pm

selector.dub.u wrote: sit still breath and observe your thoughts. eventually they will end and the space between them will become apparent. Some interesting things will come about as a result of this.

(been meditating daily for almost 5 years)

You mean nervous breakdowns...?

hello-hello-hello-hello

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:42 pm

bright maroon wrote:
selector.dub.u wrote: sit still breath and observe your thoughts. eventually they will end and the space between them will become apparent. Some interesting things will come about as a result of this.

(been meditating daily for almost 5 years)

You mean nervous breakdowns...?

hello-hello-hello-hello

hahaha almost anything can happen

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:45 pm

dream analysis is a curiosity of mine. I'd really like to know whats going on with that. I was told recently about some interpretation to the book of revelations that was in fact a guide towards dream analysis but I failed to get the source.

I tend to have really strange dreams. A lot of apocalyptic dreams. Just bizarre stuff...everything from rabbis praying the kaddish to a lake full of dead deer to making love in a completely white room (strange because dreaming about sex usually spooks the shit out of me--its very rare). I've been chronicling them since I was 14 and i'm 30 now.

Here's to an original topic but just a question I'm tossing out there because I grapple with it, but to my credit, I think so did Kant and Wittenstein (though don't quote me on that):

If our reality (individual) is already proven to be subjective, then is what forms the consensus of reality more a popularity contest of dueling tenets of reality? To that end, how important is language to the perception of reality (not any specific one but how language functions)? And does anything exist without needing the validation of a belief system? If our collective consciousness functions like an ooze with the ebb and flow and such, is there anything outside of it, or are we all our own source of divinity?

What do you think?

I'm still workin' it out but I'm always curious what other people think about this.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:52 pm

i don't have vivid dreams often but whenever i do they seem to have a lot of meaning to me

i have a recurring dream that i'm late for class. being a raver in college for 11 years will do that to you.

but recently i was having the dream and then i finally made it to class and my teacher was asleep. i found it weird that she was asleep, so i carried on in class anyway. then the next day i'm late for class again but only now i can't remember where the class is. i start yelling at people WHY WON'T YOU TELL ME WHERE MY CLASS IS

then when i woke up i realized that the teacher that was asleep, was my mentor throughout adolescence. she was my art teacher in 8th grade and then she moved to my highschool the same year i did, and i ended up having her for 4 more art classes. i took more classes than they offered so they invented two classes for me to take with her during her conference period, and another for me to sit in with another class and do my own thing.

anyway, she told me she would know it was me hitting her up again in however many years after i'd gone on to be some kind of successful artist, because i wouldn't know how to refer to her. as her first or last name.

i'd been wanting to get in touch with her for years but never found the opportunity to. then a few months ago my mom came to visit and brought me an obituary. my teacher had died. she was a member of mensa, peta, and left behind a husband and two kids. no explanation as to why she died.

anyway i knew this before i had my dream i didn't remember it again till i woke up.

makes me sad that she's gone though.

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:54 pm

bellybelle wrote:dream analysis is a curiosity of mine. I'd really like to know whats going on with that. I was told recently about some interpretation to the book of revelations that was in fact a guide towards dream analysis but I failed to get the source.

I tend to have really strange dreams. A lot of apocalyptic dreams. Just bizarre stuff...everything from rabbis praying the kaddish to a lake full of dead deer to making love in a completely white room (strange because dreaming about sex usually spooks the shit out of me--its very rare). I've been chronicling them since I was 14 and i'm 30 now.

Here's to an original topic but just a question I'm tossing out there because I grapple with it, but to my credit, I think so did Kant and Wittenstein (though don't quote me on that):

If our reality (individual) is already proven to be subjective, then is what forms the consensus of reality more a popularity contest of dueling tenets of reality? To that end, how important is language to the perception of reality (not any specific one but how language functions)? And does anything exist without needing the validation of a belief system? If our collective consciousness functions like an ooze with the ebb and flow and such, is there anything outside of it, or are we all our own source of divinity?

What do you think? I'm still workin' it out but I'm always curious what other people think about this.

Lot's to think about there!
The only thing I have to add at this point is that I think once hard and fast conclusions are drawn about truth and reality, then that is the end of growth and learning.

Parson...

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