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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:22 pm
by boomnoise
i want to see cameron slew lethal on the tory riddim
lethal bizzle's manager didn't really rise to the platform now did she. this had me shouting at the screen. great tv
two words: victoria aitkin!
who knows about?
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:44 pm
by Jubz
Politics is a waste of fucking time.
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:58 pm
by docdoom
boomnoise wrote:i want to see cameron slew lethal on the tory riddim
lethal bizzle's manager didn't really rise to the platform now did she. this had me shouting at the screen. great tv
two words: victoria aitkin!
who knows about?
Yeah the Manager didn't really engage with the individual questions really, just kept repeating her point.
The tory was like something from Brass Eye. I swear that programme was earily prophetic, so much news nowadays looks like it was written by Chris Morris.
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:08 pm
by hi-def
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Totally agree. The manager bird just kept waffling on about some e-mail that Lethal B has sent to David Cameron. Big deal, she had the perfect opportunity to flatten this argument but she was a bit like a 'rabbit in the headlights'.
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:14 pm
by boomnoise
Kirsty Wark had to keep feeding her the key arguments. It was the perfect opportunity to slew the tories and inparticular that nob Michael Gove and she blew it.
I can't imagine that that women actually manages anyone or anything let along one of the country's leading grime talents. No charisma, no mettle, no substance. I felt let down by her.
Nothing about what could be done to solve the issues of gun grime and violence. A rather shameful example of how the tory party would rather pick on the members of society that struggle through adversity, than work with and help them.
Centre right bullshit.
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:24 pm
by doomstep
Tomb6000 wrote:boomnoise wrote:Big up Menzies, er i mean Tomb6000!
Should be start a politics sub-forum?

Ha - gettign out of all of that business asap - none too enjoyable in the long run.
If we thought offtopic got aggy from time to time I'm almost certain Politics would be banning central

please no politics sub-forum, I am absolutely horrified and disgusted by the views people have been vomitting up in this thread

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:59 am
by shonky
boomnoise wrote:i want to see cameron slew lethal on the tory riddim
lethal bizzle's manager didn't really rise to the platform now did she. this had me shouting at the screen. great tv
two words: victoria aitkin!
who knows about?
That Vicky Aitken programme was without a doubt one of the funniest bits of self-delusion I've ever seen - the looks on the faces of the other mc's when she started her rapping were priceless
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:42 am
by metalboxproducts
Can any one be truely that self delusionalal though? Did you not get the slightest feeling she was fully aware of how rediculous it was? Assuming for asecond it was genuine.The people who made it must have known how it woild have looked to the viewing public,you know, stupid, posh,female, child of a former politicion, wanting to be an mc. Bit of a cliche don't you think. (Does any one remember the cartoon in eather the nme or melody maker called cecil gee?A middle class white kid obsessed with gangster rap). Yet the producers went on with it anyway.Is this not extriem cynicisem on the part of the producers. And if you accept the producers are that cynical rhen you surly have to accept they are just as likly to have scripted it and that she was just a caracter divised to play on your own prejudices. I've seen her in things since and she seems more than capable of taking a joke at her own expence.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:59 am
by spaceboy
LMAO!!! I know vicky aitken, used to know her very well in my teens...she's always been into dancing and she did look like a mug in that programme...actually a really nice person...all about her sister tho

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:11 am
by tronman
Haha yeh that vic aitkin ting was joke. She licked bars on top of 'Bucktown' by smiff'n'wessun. Now THAT'S showah!
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:21 am
by shonky
metalboxproducts wrote:Can any one be truely that self delusionalal though? Did you not get the slightest feeling she was fully aware of how rediculous it was? Assuming for asecond it was genuine.The people who made it must have known how it woild have looked to the viewing public,you know, stupid, posh,female, child of a former politicion, wanting to be an mc. Bit of a cliche don't you think. (Does any one remember the cartoon in eather the nme or melody maker called cecil gee?A middle class white kid obsessed with gangster rap). Yet the producers went on with it anyway.Is this not extriem cynicisem on the part of the producers. And if you accept the producers are that cynical rhen you surly have to accept they are just as likly to have scripted it and that she was just a caracter divised to play on your own prejudices. I've seen her in things since and she seems more than capable of taking a joke at her own expence.

You're right on this one I think, I recall that she could barely contain cracking up at the whole thing. Mind you this was ITV's Young Posh and Loaded or whatever it was called - seemed to be a bit of a rarity to have something mocking the wealthy in amongst the usual tv diet of house porn and ripping on the poor shows (wife swap, you are what you eat, etc).
I now generally watch less than half an hour a day of TV (down from quite a lot more as a kid), it really has fuck all to recommend it. More channels, less revenues, cheaper shows - but such choice

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:11 pm
by tronman
'i might look like britney, but you sould never kill me'
LOL! bars4days.com
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:59 pm
by corpsey
I enjoy Bizzle's cogent and reasoned rebuttal but I'd probably prefer it if he just rolled up on Cameron in a six fo and filled him full of uzi guts.
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:58 pm
by crazydave
^^^ streetfight to decide it all!
David and Goliath

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:39 pm
by bleep
Shonky wrote:See it at my work all the time, violent, wife-beating, alcoholic dad begats violent, wife-beating, alcoholic kids (or introverted, self-harming kids) unfortunately. It'd be far better to have more help for those families (treatment programmes, counselling, etc) than to blame hip hop/tv/drugs/whatever for all of society's ills.
Working towards a solution for ingrained social problems is difficult, costs money, and takes a long time. Singling out an artist or music or drugs and blaming it for social problems is easy, costs nowt, and makes for good press.
I'm not in the UK but I see it all the time here in New Zealand. Much easier to blame the symptoms than fix the disease.
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