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theVerdict wrote:

seckle wrote:take a look at the doa grid. there's like 5 producers making the switch per week.

Im just waiting for Noisia to do it so I can can just quit listening to dubstep.

chances are high.
they already released a Breaks album under the alias Hustle Athletics, some more liquid under Drifter, and some wicked hip hoppish (and a bit of dubstep/grimelike beats) bullshit text rap things under De Huilende Rappers (the wining rappers)

here's a mix with some skynet:
http://argonrecords.com/Argon_KZSC_Mix_06_24_06.mp3

tracklisting:

skynet - swamp
skynet - time on earth
advance - the kinks
skynet - life of grime
grapes - who is this
skynet - innertube
djunya - tone zone
skynet - backlash
8bit - monsterz
skynet - the edge
signal - chuyen
grapes - rabbit stew
scanners interlude
skynet - exhale

must say that i'm glad that the experienced dnb producers like tech itch and skynet who do dubstep don't hit it big in one shot.

The sound of dubstep has changed massively as it's gotten more of a dnb influence though. The original stuff seemed to be more influenced by garage, minimal techno, arabian/oriental sounds and...well dub than the newer stuff. Hopefully the Roots of Dubstep will introduce people to a wider variety of influences.

Dnb's not all bad, but I do find the conformity of heaviness a bit tedious at the moment, must be other emotions/ideas to express. Jungle definitely had more space to it, that compressed to fuck modern sound seems to be more mechanics than music to these ears.

I used to be Dillinja.

Corpsey wrote:I used to be Dillinja.

No, I was Dillinja. Dont get it twisted.

Yea im seeing him, erm, myself play in NYC this weekend.

Let's hope we play ''Fast Car''.

i produce all kinds of weirdness

Corpsey wrote:I used to be Dillinja.

You lying get!!

Shut up, Lemon D, go and make me a cuppa.

T-mus wrote: chances are high.
they already released a Breaks album under the alias Hustle Athletics, some more liquid under Drifter, and some wicked hip hoppish (and a bit of dubstep/grimelike beats) bullshit text rap things under De Huilende Rappers (the wining rappers)

wasn't it a breaks ep?

anyway, they also do downtempo and minimal techno. and they ditched all the aliases now and are always called noisia, regardless of the style what they're doing.

so expect the unexpected.

Corpsey wrote:Shut up, Lemon D, go and make me a cuppa.

Fook off and change yer nappy, and come up with some new chewns, yer soft bastard

Shonky wrote:The sound of dubstep has changed massively as it's gotten more of a dnb influence though. The original stuff seemed to be more influenced by garage, minimal techno, arabian/oriental sounds and...well dub than the newer stuff. Hopefully the Roots of Dubstep will introduce people to a wider variety of influences.

Dnb's not all bad, but I do find the conformity of heaviness a bit tedious at the moment, must be other emotions/ideas to express. Jungle definitely had more space to it, that compressed to fuck modern sound seems to be more mechanics than music to these ears.

Agree....100%....but i allso like hotflush and planet mu,on the dubstepside.
As far dnb is concerned,u right mate....that's why i m in love with the dubby or deep (liquid funk) style

Sybian wrote:

Shonky wrote:The sound of dubstep has changed massively as it's gotten more of a dnb influence though. The original stuff seemed to be more influenced by garage, minimal techno, arabian/oriental sounds and...well dub than the newer stuff. Hopefully the Roots of Dubstep will introduce people to a wider variety of influences.

Dnb's not all bad, but I do find the conformity of heaviness a bit tedious at the moment, must be other emotions/ideas to express. Jungle definitely had more space to it, that compressed to fuck modern sound seems to be more mechanics than music to these ears.

Agree....100%....but i allso like hotflush and planet mu,on the dubstepside.
As far dnb is concerned,u right mate....that's why i m in love with the dubby or deep (liquid funk) style

Yeah, it was the heavy end I was really referring to, I know dnb's a pretty broad church (although you wouldn't know if from some fans)

rjv wrote:

T-mus wrote: chances are high.
they already released a Breaks album under the alias Hustle Athletics, some more liquid under Drifter, and some wicked hip hoppish (and a bit of dubstep/grimelike beats) bullshit text rap things under De Huilende Rappers (the wining rappers)

wasn't it a breaks ep?

anyway, they also do downtempo and minimal techno. and they ditched all the aliases now and are always called noisia, regardless of the style what they're doing.

so expect the unexpected.

yeah, ep, called 'Lekker' (frikking awesome tune), got the artwork as desktop, so i should've known that..

never heard the downtempo and minimal techno stuff. but it's pretty cool they ditched the aliases, makes a more solid thing. but they should notice what style they will be playing from now on i gues..

btw: download the Huilende Rappers tracks here
to bad they don't have the lyrics online, so i could translate some hilarious lyrics..

I Love DnB and have made and bought a shit ton.... but to be Honest since i got a taste of Good Dubstep i haven't made anything else... Very Infectious indeed..Its kinda like i'm going back to my roots a bit..I used to play in a dub/reggae band back in`96..w/ SHAKA Beliz..Long Live the experiment... And Long live Dub!!!

still making dnb but yeah, feelin some ill ass vibes off of dubstep and have a few choons in production. I'll be sure to post them in the music forum!

My two passions right now are sinister evil ass tech step dnb and ill g'd out / middle eastern dubstep. Creates a nice balance haha

peace,
annias

www.myspace.com/annias

as far as i can see, the people ditching d&b are generally those who preferred what was going on around 94/95, when jungle was about a lot more than all out tech-aggression. to me that means that dubstep has nothing to worry about. the people who like what d&b is doing currently - they will stay with d&b. those who are sick of d&b are coming to dubstep for all the right reasons.

d&b has become a silly parody of itself over the last 5 years, and i think a lot of original jungle/d&b heads feel alienated from it. dubstep, like every other form of music, is open to anyone who's willing to listen to it, you can't on one hand expect a scene to become bigger, and on the other, reject the people that are wanting to support it. nobody comes from a 'strictly dubstep' background - everyone was into something else before dubstep was around, whether it's jungle, garage, hip hop, grime, dub, glitchy electronica, whatever.

the most important thing, as far as i can see, is to learn from the past, look at what happened to the d&b scene, and make sure dubstep doesn't go down the same route. this is down to dj's, producers and promoters - it's your job to EDUCATE newcomers, where ever they came from. if you don't want your scene to become saturated with d&b style bullshit, keep playing the kind of music that reflects this. right now, dubstep is looking healthy - the music is well rounded, the people at fwd and dmz are keeping the whole scene in check, and because of this, the sound is getting noticed by more and more people. when this happened to jungle in the mid 90's, it resulted in the sound getting watered down and becoming more obvious and obnoxious, until d&b eventually turned into the ropey old slag that it currently is.

there is no reason for dubstep to go down the same route. it's gonna get bigger - you can't stop that, and the scene needs the increasing number of supporters anyway. the key is in making sure the right kind of tracks are being made, bought and played in the right environment and with the right mentality, by those who know what they're talking about. if someone makes a shit tune that sounds like slowed down angry d&b, just don't buy it. if someone makes a tune that represents your sound better, go buy that instead - it's obvious. steer the scene in the right direction, and you have nothing to worry about.
(sorry about the waffle, it's an interesting subject)..

Corpsey wrote:I used to be Dillinja.

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMIX BABY!!" * drop *

cure wrote:i still produce different stlyes... im not a dnb hater by any means...
i love lots of variety in my life..

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if a tune's got the right vibe is done....that's it for me.