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Wachs Lyrical wrote:Thank you Misk for bringing this topic back on track
And for the record I won't be jacking anybody's snares from already released tracks lol

only the unreleased ones

nothing wrong with sampling some hits, all these packs we've all got hold of over the years had to off come from somewhere, if your really taking the piss with taking someones real nice snare which theyve spent hours perfecting, why not layer it up with another and hide the fact you have just been a blatent tea leaf

I'm finding myself layering snares up so much to make that nice cracking snapping sound, that by the end im squinting on each snare and eventually have to take off my headphones, shakes up the ear wax

make sure you are only using 24 bit samples,if they are 16-then convert them. this is for all drum hits. your plugins will work better.
also try gating the tails out by tweaking the thresh and then the release and hold. a lot of snare samples will have unwanted reverb tails and again, gating works wonders...

darkmatterUK wrote:

jackieboi wrote:Surely the achievement would come from the tune as a whole. If your not letting yourself enjoy your own music because of a snare that isnt yours then you need to be locked up you fruitloop

who said anything about me not enjoying my own music? lol

as for snares that arent mine, i work purely from sample packs and give the drums i find in those packs my own twist, same as most other producers.

never have i once stolen a single drum or any other element from somebody else's piece of music

Have you ever used an amen break?

I don't use other producers samples personally but I don't feel that it would be wrong if applied in a unique way and maybe treated differently.

What I like to do if i wanna beef up the sound of drums is just parallel compress 'em (don't know if its been mentioned in thread already)
you take the original sound, send it to a seperate bus and heavily compress the new track, you then mix these two together (the wet and dry signals) and it should give you a bit more weight behind it.

Another way that you could try would be to use sidechain compression. You could sidechain it into compressors on competing tracks. This can sometimes be a really interesting result along with some careful EQing.

how would i reverse a snare sound? i would like to try that effect.

(i use reason)

STINJEE wrote:have u tried layering a big metalic sounding amen snare underneath?

there are some good ones to download on

www.drumnbass.be

I was going to recommend that too. Amen snares have always sounded great for me, no matter how awful the rest of the mix is.

rickyrich wrote:how would i reverse a snare sound? i would like to try that effect.

(i use reason)

To my knowledge theres no way to actually reverse a sound in reason.

Your best bets getting a reverse snare sample and using that in your sampler. You can download audacity for free which is really good for simple audio editing and you can also make 320's of your finished projects with it. Once you've got that you can simply export your snare sound in reason, open it up in audactiy and reverse it, then bring it back in to reason.

Plenty of talk here about compression but the compressor u use makes a big difference - I've found offline processing (ie. process in cool edit etc before sound is in sampler) with the Waves SSL using a 30ms attack can get a super loud snare with the right sample as the sound can go well in the red (for 30ms) but with no distortion. I tried the same with other compressors and the volume was nowhere near as loud. Also distortion can get a super loud volume but again different plugins can have completely different results.

As mentioned layering helps as well but I usually filter at least 1 of the layer drums and sometimes put them all through a limiter to keep the sound under control. Mixing down snare with reverb tail and then compressing the mix can get a nicer snare sometimes as well.

its not only bout the mixdown.. Its also the question if your snare workes in your beat. If mixing dont help try another snare.

as in mixdown talk. Use compression and/or sidechain compression

low attack fast release and for sidechain compression the opposite. Experiment with the ratio. cause you can make it pretty fucked up if you want.

jackieboi wrote:To my knowledge theres no way to actually reverse a sound in reason.

Load it into the NNXT
There's a looping effect or somethign similar, where you can get it to play the snare reversed

Jeer wrote:

jackieboi wrote:To my knowledge theres no way to actually reverse a sound in reason.

Load it into the NNXT
There's a looping effect or somethign similar, where you can get it to play the snare reversed

yea there is, you have to select BW in loop section

darkmatterUK wrote:

Jeer wrote:

jackieboi wrote:To my knowledge theres no way to actually reverse a sound in reason.

Load it into the NNXT
There's a looping effect or somethign similar, where you can get it to play the snare reversed

yea there is, you have to select BW in loop section

Well good. Learn something new every day!

JBlake wrote:Best way to turn things up is to turn everything else down!

this

darkmatterUK wrote:
never have i once stolen a single drum or any other element from somebody else's piece of music

are you 100% sure about that?