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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:00 am
by the-devo
Duskky wrote:
The-Devo wrote: <i><u>No link for this one.. everyone who posts here at least weekly and doesn't know the guy should commit suicide.</u></i>
i wanted to commit suicide when i found out...
What's not to like about Rusko?

<i>In case I misunderstood you, I apologize.</i>

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:01 am
by duskky
i'm not gonna get involved beyond this point.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:05 am
by legend4ry
The-Devo wrote:
Duskky wrote:
The-Devo wrote: <i><u>No link for this one.. everyone who posts here at least weekly and doesn't know the guy should commit suicide.</u></i>
i wanted to commit suicide when i found out...
What's not to like about Rusko?

<i>In case I misunderstood you, I apologize.</i>
Well, theres this thing called a opinion and musical taste you see..And while a lot of people like rusko, a lot of people don't too.. "The Marmite Theory" you either love it or hate it.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:06 am
by the-devo
Duskky wrote:i'm not gonna get involved beyond this point.
I'm not a mindless cigarette; I don't flame at people who disagree with me.
I am truly, honestly interested in reading a reasonable / valid critique about the guy.
Is it because he's like "the mainstream of dubstep" or something?

I'm asking that, because most DNB droids I know, hate Pendulum because it's <i>mainstream</i> and <i>too popular</i>.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:10 am
by duskky
The-Devo wrote:
Duskky wrote:i'm not gonna get involved beyond this point.
I'm not a mindless cigarette; I don't flame at people who disagree with me.
I am truly, honestly interested in reading a reasonable / valid critique about the guy.
Is it because he's like "the mainstream of dubstep" or something?

I'm asking that, because most DNB droids I know, hate Pendulum because it's <i>mainstream</i> and <i>too popular</i>.
ok, well it's just personal taste innit. It's nothing to do with his popularity, it's his sonic choices and the music made which strike me as spangly and brain dead. But it's just opinion and I watched his CM masterclass thing like everyone else.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:13 am
by the-devo
Legendary wrote: Well, theres this thing called a opinion and musical taste you see..And while a lot of people like rusko, a lot of people don't too.. "The Marmite Theory" you either love it or hate it.
Well, this "Marmite Theory" is pretty much applicable when talking about Dubstep in general.
Dubstep (imo) is such a unique style, the possibility of someone finding it entertaining or not is 50% - 50%.

The first dubstep song I ever heard was yeeeaaars ago and it was some minimalistic crap (same kicks and snares that you hear in minimal techno today) and when years later I heard RUSKO - FUN HOUSE, I almost shat bricks - It was a huge surprise.
I think it was his first impression that made me like his other works.

I admit, he makes some pretty fucked up beats.. it's almost like Crunk Dubstep, if you know what I mean.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:17 am
by legend4ry
The-Devo wrote:
Legendary wrote: Well, theres this thing called a opinion and musical taste you see..And while a lot of people like rusko, a lot of people don't too.. "The Marmite Theory" you either love it or hate it.
when years later I heard RUSKO - FUN HOUSE, I almost shat bricks - It was a huge surprise.

You mean, The Others - Fun House what was on the fabric live CD?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:21 am
by the-devo
Legendary wrote: You mean, The Others - Fun House what was on the fabric live CD?
Yeah, it's by Caspa & Rusko, ain't it?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:23 am
by legend4ry
The-Devo wrote:
Legendary wrote: You mean, The Others - Fun House what was on the fabric live CD?
Yeah, it's by Caspa & Rusko, ain't it?
Nope its by the The Others, who're also on Dub Police as far as I know and I am quite sure its released and has been for a while. :)

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:32 am
by the-devo
Legendary wrote: Nope its by the The Others, who're also on Dub Police as far as I know and I am quite sure its released and has been for a while. :)
Well, I'm sorry then. I'm glad you corrected me. Thanks for the info.
..It's strange, because everywhere I searched for the song "Fun House" it did say "The others" but then it had "by Caspa Rusko".. so.. what the fawk?
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I still like him though. His Cockney Knees Up mix is quite brain bashing.
.. I accept that people have different tastes, and I won't force my opinion onto others, but I simply can't resist his skull drilling, brain penetrating basses and beats.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:36 am
by manicmckanic
For myself, the most pronounced would be LTJ Bukem, Benga, Rusko and Point1

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:40 am
by the-devo
Also.. I'm not from the UK, you see.. I only know about 1 Dubstep producer in my country.. his name is Cadik. He is considered to be a (nationally) well known producer..
Us, Hungarians really need some update, because I'm starting to get tired of Drum and bass.. I mean it's alright I still do visuals for DnB parties, and enjoy it, but.. when you hear the same damn break beat from 10pm to 7am, it gets annoying.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:45 am
by wirez
The-Devo wrote:
Duskky wrote:i'm not gonna get involved beyond this point.
I'm not a mindless cigarette; I don't flame at people who disagree with me.
I am truly, honestly interested in reading a reasonable / valid critique about the guy.
Is it because he's like "the mainstream of dubstep" or something?

I'm asking that, because most DNB droids I know, hate Pendulum because it's <i>mainstream</i> and <i>too popular</i>.
That sounded quite poetic...

I'd say that's probably the case... A lot of dubsteps initial qualities have been lost to the 'rusky sound' that's becoming far more popular these days...
I have a mate who's releasing dubs at the moment and he was refused a more 'jump up' type dubsteppa lately, he says labels are looking for the more ambient stuff again...

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:40 pm
by moujah
The-Devo wrote:I only know about 1 Dubstep producer in my country.. his name is Cadik. He is considered to be a (nationally) well known producer..
Us, Hungarians really need some update, because I'm starting to get tired of Drum and bass..
I guess it might be you who need an update :) I am not from Hungary yet I have known a great Hungarian producer called Ekaros for more than 3 years. but maybe you don't know him because you would just consider his music "some minimalistic crap" anyway... www.myspace.com/ekaros

I see why you as a dnb head love Rusko's "wall-of-sound" kind of dubstep but the minimalism is exactly what got me into dubstep and actually that's what appealed to most people on this forum some years ago. at the time not many people would have a point in considering dubstep just a "slow version of dnb".

but after Caspa & Rusko's Fabric Live that's exactly what happened and all the dnb heads are jumping on the train thinking dubstep is good enough for them after all. luckily there is plenty of different tastes of dubstep, so I guess everyone can be happy :) but I wanted to say to you that you'll miss a lot of great music if you just look for Rusko-like tunes in dubstep

mostly in places like Hungary and Slovakia where the scenes are really small this is killing the original vibe of dubstep nights because I can already see the growing number of people who come a dubstep night and they expect the huge dirty basslines, massive drops, etc. it really is not what dubstep is about, it's about and a bassline driven rhythmical diversity with more spacey beats ranging from techno and house through breaks to 2step and even hip-hop.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:57 pm
by 8bit
DJ Vision wrote: and a shitload of Happy hardcore and Hardstyle DJs
oh noes

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:30 pm
by lessthanthree
Bassnectar. He's one of those guys that can make a badass, stompin tune that can still have a soothing melody. :james:

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:40 pm
by price
John Cage (pure experimental musician, the 1st person to record a vinyl scratch on a vinyl deck, was the 1st true electronic musician back in the day 1940s style)

Brian Eno (for inventing ambient music)

lots of dub (for the engineering and use of new technologies in the 60s)

Physchedelic music from the 60s (for making trippy music)

To many to list to be honest :roll:

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:48 pm
by lewisr
im fucking hammeeered :D

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:46 am
by j-sh
The-Devo wrote:Also.. I'm not from the UK, you see.. I only know about 1 Dubstep producer in my country.. his name is Cadik. He is considered to be a (nationally) well known producer..
Us, Hungarians really need some update, because I'm starting to get tired of Drum and bass.. I mean it's alright I still do visuals for DnB parties, and enjoy it, but.. when you hear the same damn break beat from 10pm to 7am, it gets annoying.
u might like reso, bar 9, stenchman and suspect
they're everything rusko wishes he was hahah