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Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:42 pm**

Dead Rats wrote:I don't see whats wrong with an artist trying to promote themselves and bumping threads, because alot of the time people won't even bother to scroll to the bottom of the page, letalone click 'page 2'.

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:05 pm**

datura wrote:
Reptilian wrote:continually bumping threads that no-one seems to really care about and getting the same old faces to engage in mindless self gratifying discussions just to keep the thread in people's faces

worst of all jumping on every fucking thread when a newcomer who has only just heard of dubstep wants some pointers and showing them the tune you are currently spamming when they might never have even heard of mala or whoever else

i'm getting sick of it, if the tune's good people will discuss it - shameless self promotion shouldn't be allowed and is against the rules

isn't it?

EDIT: O yeah of course if done tastefully self promotion is a vital part of this forum, i am talking about when people TAKE THE PISS
I totally agree

This is probably the best example where the label owners (one in particular) bumped it 10 times just on the last page.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=160

I was incredulously looking through this thread just last night... it's the nature of the internet I suppose.

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:25 pm**

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Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:39 pm**

DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Seriously, it's somehow bullshit to suggest something more obscure but ok to mention something already as well known as Mala?

no-one's saying that

its great to suggest someone more obscure, as long as they are as good - but its a bit biased if it's YOU that's that person. leave it to someone else to do this - if a person's music's so great surely someone will mention it!

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:52 pm**

oh and this goes out to darcus who decided the comments section on my soundcloud was a billboard for him to post his website on. It's not and neither is every part of this forum. Now get to work on some decent content for your website rather than spamming the whole internet and pissing off potential users

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:05 pm**

Reptilian wrote:
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Seriously, it's somehow bullshit to suggest something more obscure but ok to mention something already as well known as Mala?
no-one's saying that

its great to suggest someone more obscure, as long as they are as good - but its a bit biased if it's YOU that's that person. leave it to someone else to do this - if a person's music's so great surely someone will mention it!

and who gets to say what is good and what is bad? and what if the stuff is good yet no one wants to mention it? where do you draw the line?

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:11 pm**

do you not agree that discouraging producers to post & bump there own threads, may make some quality material slip through the net, maybe not a big factor here, but just a thought?

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:11 pm**

Rogue Star wrote:
Reptilian wrote:
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Seriously, it's somehow bullshit to suggest something more obscure but ok to mention something already as well known as Mala?
no-one's saying that

its great to suggest someone more obscure, as long as they are as good - but its a bit biased if it's YOU that's that person. leave it to someone else to do this - if a person's music's so great surely someone will mention it!
and who gets to say what is good and what is bad? and what if the stuff is good yet no one wants to mention it? where do you draw the line?

The point is when people shamelessly offer up their own tracks as "recommendations", which happens very often and usually from the same people. There's nothing wrong with flagging up something obscure that you think is good, and no-one is saying that there is.

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:11 pm**

although i spose, as previously stated, if its big peeps will know wah-b

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:14 pm**

Rogue Star wrote:
Reptilian wrote:
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Seriously, it's somehow bullshit to suggest something more obscure but ok to mention something already as well known as Mala?
no-one's saying that

its great to suggest someone more obscure, as long as they are as good - but its a bit biased if it's YOU that's that person. leave it to someone else to do this - if a person's music's so great surely someone will mention it!
and who gets to say what is good and what is bad? and what if the stuff is good yet no one wants to mention it? where do you draw the line?

fair enough i agree with you, but its pretty obvious that in the example that i was using if someone has just come in as a total newcomer and wants to know who's good that there are some seminal artists who should get a mention before some kid with a myspace who is still getting his shit together (for example).

i saw one such thread where no-one mentioned digital mystikz in a thread about which dubstep to check out - seen as some people may have come in as a result of chase and status, rusko or skream it isn;t that unthinkable that they might not have heard of mala (for example)

really what it boils down to is- by all means promote your work but dont shove it in people's faces - dont be rude, mention it where APPROPRIATE

it's all in the rules of the forum anyway which seem pretty reasonable

it just seems that quite a few folks are ignoring the rules

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:14 pm**

double post

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:16 pm**

deamonds wrote:do you not agree that discouraging producers to post & bump there own threads, may make some quality material slip through the net, maybe not a big factor here, but just a thought?

a bit of bumping is cool

no-one said it isnt

shameless bump-a-thons just get tedious tho

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:16 pm**

Rogue Star wrote:
Reptilian wrote:
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Seriously, it's somehow bullshit to suggest something more obscure but ok to mention something already as well known as Mala?
no-one's saying that

its great to suggest someone more obscure, as long as they are as good - but its a bit biased if it's YOU that's that person. leave it to someone else to do this - if a person's music's so great surely someone will mention it!
and who gets to say what is good and what is bad? and what if the stuff is good yet no one wants to mention it? where do you draw the line?

Agreed, Rogue!

Anyways, surely that's the whole point of a forum - to promote music in a communal place where people can say, "hey, check this new tunes out" or "this is what we're doing now, have a listen - cast an opinion". Of course, you find a few genuinely cack tracks along the way - but that's what you get when being part of a community, which is one thing the dubstep scene does exceptionally well - act as a community.

Even if a forums purpose was to serve as a place to solely talk about music, the fact that names are dropped is still publicity whether you like it or not.

I've found a lot of music I didn't know before from artists both big and small, and if it weren't for these "shameless self promoters" there would be no new music... who is going to do it for them??

If you only want to hear what's 'in' or what the big producers are churning out next (as is sometimes the case), then stick to last.fm or amazon.com...

ooops, gotta go - I can hear Skreams La Roux remix on Radio 1!

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:16 pm**

Reptilian wrote:
i meant thats one of the things that takes the piss - like i said before when a total newcomer to the forum want advice about what dubstep is good cos they've only just heard of it and they get a load of spam when it would have been more honest to say for example have you heard joker, anti social, digital mystikz etc (insert any other consistent prolific and respected producers)?

this is so fucking dumb.

please KYS

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:19 pm**

reptilian, I think it's fair that everyone gets a chance to promote their wares, big or small, "good" or "bad".

oversaturation is the problem at hand, I'd say. there's an unwritten rule regarding free, grass-roots marketing == don't be a douchebag.

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:22 pm**

staypuft wrote:reptilian, I think it's fair that everyone gets a chance to promote their wares, big or small, "good" or "bad".

oversaturation is the problem at hand, I'd say. there's an unwritten rule regarding free, grass-roots marketing - don't be a douchebag.

don't you be a "douchebag"

i fucking agree with you anyway but i was talking about HIJACKING THREADS and EXCESSIVE BUMPING

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:24 pm**

i think the number one thing here is

WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!?

jesus, you can't fix the internet just like you cant fix society.

take the stick out of your ass and go with the flow.

so you have to skim through a message board....big deal.

damn....

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:25 pm**

-boring wrote:
Reptilian wrote:
i meant thats one of the things that takes the piss - like i said before when a total newcomer to the forum want advice about what dubstep is good cos they've only just heard of it and they get a load of spam when it would have been more honest to say for example have you heard joker, anti social, digital mystikz etc (insert any other consistent prolific and respected producers)?
this is so fucking dumb.

please KYS

you're fucking dumb

it's hijacking a thread if someone says I'm new to dubstep who should I check out and someone goes

"let me see...

who's good?

I know!

me!!!"

it's also quite sad

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:27 pm**

-boring wrote:i think the number one thing here is

WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!?

guess it was just a point of discussion

if you don't like it "skim through" - follow your own advice and read something else

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:28 pm**

Reptilian wrote:
-boring wrote:
Reptilian wrote:
i meant thats one of the things that takes the piss - like i said before when a total newcomer to the forum want advice about what dubstep is good cos they've only just heard of it and they get a load of spam when it would have been more honest to say for example have you heard joker, anti social, digital mystikz etc (insert any other consistent prolific and respected producers)?
this is so fucking dumb.

please KYS
you're fucking dumb

it's hijacking a thread if someone says I'm new to dubstep who should I check out and someone goes

"let me see...

who's good?

I know!

me!!!"

it's also quite sad

dude, WHO FUCKING CARES??

all you have to do is DON'T CLICK THEIR LINK.

some people are just trying to get their shit out there, if it sucks, it sucks, you dont have to bother doing anything except skimming past it.

who the fuck wants people coming around asking whats good anyways??

to me dubstep is about finding shit yourself, if someone asks for recomendations, they should be linked the web stores, barefiles and get darker along with the mixes forum.

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shameless self promotion on this forum is getting very dull

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