Do younger Dubstep fans realize DUB influences like....

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:02 pm

dub is a huge, huge part of the current state of dance music. nothing-- from hiphop, to disco, to house, to dancehall, on up through the uk 'nuum and anything else in between, would exist without dub reggae. seriously.

and yes, i'm hearing a remarkable lack of both dub and step in the tunes in the dubs section. i hear a lot of FUCK YEAH! and RRRRAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!, which is all well and good, but... me waan more dub and step in my dubstep.

with that said:

blackboard jungle dub and the whole african dub series do it for me. For 1 single dub record, it's all about in the heart of the congos.

also a fan of the whole world of jahtari 8-bit dub, and adrian sherwood's work on on-u, from tackhead thru african head charge, was a really big influence. not an easy one, for sure, but pretty life-changing as far as ideas about music and aesthetics go.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:06 pm

Aston Barrett's "Familyman in Dub" is up there for me

really into Prince Far-I - his shit is soooo heavy

Tommy McCook

signus · Post by **signus** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:15 pm

fork46 wrote:
Signus wrote:As for reggae: Gregory Isaacs, Max Romeo, The Slickers, Derrick Morgan, Bob Andy, Phylis Dillon, The Gaylads
What about Dennis Brown? Man was a legend, so many good tunes and such a good voice.

Yes man!

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:30 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote:and i don't think its important to understand the roots of any style to enjoy it.

True and you don’t, as proved here:

TBH i think dubstep owes more to rave culture(dnb/jungle/acid) than it does to dub

The term Dubstep came from the dubby Garage Horsepower were making in early 2000. The half time drums happened after and helped enhance the dub elements making the name fit more. Then producers made beats that were effectively Electronic Dub @ 140 bpm.

Funnily enough the new Horsepower riddim on Tempa fits into this category if anyone’s looking for this stuff. It is still being made.

Dub & Reggae has influenced pretty much every genre of dance music including

(dnb/jungle/acid)

and King Tubby is indeed the King of Dub, go buy his catalogue!

kapital · Post by **kapital** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:31 pm

Augustus Pablo

dubtek · Post by **dubtek** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:35 pm

Kapital wrote:Augustus Pablo

Troof!

godflesh fiend · Post by **godflesh fiend** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:37 pm

trench wrote:Side note... does anyone know of any Jacob Miller dubstep RMX's?

Fuck yeah.....one of the coolest releases last year in fact!

Listen to it here.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvXHyR5nl80

Buy it here or any record stores that still have it............

http://www.discogs.com/Jacob-Miller-Bab ... se/1581867

godflesh fiend · Post by **godflesh fiend** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:40 pm

deamonds wrote:
Godflesh Fiend wrote:
I think that the main reason people bring up the Dub thing over Garage/Grime is because the classic Dub records crap all over Garage & Grime records.

what a stupid thing to say

Yeah sorry about that.................I am biased.

I never enjoyed any Garage or Grime for the most part but love Dub Reggae and Dubstep.

reptilian · Post by **reptilian** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:12 pm

TeReKeTe wrote: For 1 single dub record, it's all about in the heart of the congos.

that is one truly great record

egoless · Post by **egoless** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:19 pm

EFA wrote:Dub & Reggae has influenced pretty much every genre of dance music including
(dnb/jungle/acid)
and King Tubby is indeed the King of Dub, go buy his catalogue!

Absolutely,

what do you fellas think the 4x4 groove came from? Listen to the old reggae records and you'll find out... kick kick kick kick

I think it's best to say that the whole music is influenced by african drumming, you won't make a mistake with that...

_boring · Post by **_boring** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:23 pm

riddim in me bones yah?

kapital · Post by **kapital** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:25 pm

EGOLESS wrote:
EFA wrote:Dub & Reggae has influenced pretty much every genre of dance music including
(dnb/jungle/acid)
and King Tubby is indeed the King of Dub, go buy his catalogue!
Absolutely,

what do you fellas think the 4x4 groove came from? Listen to the old reggae records and you'll find out... kick kick kick kick

I think it's best to say that the whole music is influenced by african drumming, you won't make a mistake with that...

Everybody go peep some West African Highlife/Afrobeat:

ET Mensah
Rex Lawson
King Bruce
Osibisa
K. Frimpong
African Brothers
Uhuru Dance Band
Joe Mensah
Fela Kuti
Christie Azuma

Go find Ghana Soundz Vol. 1 + 2

egoless · Post by **egoless** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:28 pm

Kapital wrote:
EGOLESS wrote:
EFA wrote:Dub & Reggae has influenced pretty much every genre of dance music including
(dnb/jungle/acid)
and King Tubby is indeed the King of Dub, go buy his catalogue!
Absolutely,

what do you fellas think the 4x4 groove came from? Listen to the old reggae records and you'll find out... kick kick kick kick

I think it's best to say that the whole music is influenced by african drumming, you won't make a mistake with that...
Everybody go peep some West African Highlife/Afrobeat:

ET Mensah
Rex Lawson
King Bruce
Osibisa
K. Frimpong
African Brothers
Uhuru Dance Band
Joe Mensah
Fela Kuti
Christie Azuma

Go find Ghana Soundz Vol. 1 + 2

U yeah, african groove is delicious... so repetative but hypnotising

djake · Post by **djake** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:36 pm

the upsetters

my dads a big fan of them, been listenin to them all my life pretty much

ruckus49 · Post by **ruckus49** » Sat May 16, 2009 12:57 am

king tubby and scientist . ahhh so good.

shredexx · Post by **shredexx** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:08 am

Wackies...

boomstix · Post by **boomstix** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:42 am

[quote="Signus"]My tastes in reggae are constantly evolving but in a peculiar way. Over the last couple of years I've started listening to older and older stuff and now I find myself listening to calypso quite a lot.

Favorite artists at the moment are: Lord Tanamo, Mighty Sparrow, Lord Kitchener, Count Lasher, Lord Spoon & David, Lord Ivanhoe and His Caribbean Knights, Lord Creator.
]

make a mix of those artists, and gain my respect and admiration forever

if we're talking legends,
desmond decker and harry belafonte, for that mento connection

nerve · Post by **nerve** » Sat May 16, 2009 2:18 am

I discovered Dubstep while searching for Sly & Robbie albums. I hit Box of Dub 2. The rest is history.

godflesh fiend · Post by **godflesh fiend** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:18 am

emance wrote:I discovered Dubstep while searching for Sly & Robbie albums. I hit Box of Dub 2. The rest is history.

In that case I hope you have the album Sly & Robbie Drum And Bass Strip To The Bone By Howie B. That is some ill futuristic Dub that nothing has touched since.

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