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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:23 pm
by 86.
contakt321 wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:
86 Position wrote:
The one aspect of it that I don't deal with at all is using clips in session view...maybe that's more for playing out live (?), I don't see the purpose of it for writing beats at home.

its so you can improvise over loops and quickly make new clips

you can make a song in 15 minutes in session view if you are a good keyboard player or pad player


play out a midi sequence, duplicate and overdub within seconds all while the beats still playing. it lets you keep the vibe of the song and energy level that gets lost sometimes with standard daws
This is how I work.

I create a drum loop in session view, then I create variations. Create a bassline, then create variations, etc, etc. For me it's a great way to experiment and try out multiple takes quickly.

Then at the end I lay it out in Arrange and bounce.
this is very sensible lol.

definitiely gonna be doing this more

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:34 pm
by gr00veh0lmes
send midi signals out to external hardware, audio signals to external fx, route that shit back in. record it to a new clip while freaking the knobs.

go mad with mutes while resampling, throw some crazy automation envelopes that can control whatever you desire at whatever you desire.

live is limited by the person in control.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:53 pm
by DZA
After 2 hours playing around with it figured out a little, this shit nuff hard :cry:

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:56 pm
by gr00veh0lmes
switched from pc to mac 5 yrs back when i started making music.

never used fruity loops cos i couldn't get a mac version. same for acid. avoided cubase because of logics dominance of os x.

never liked logic. yeah its cool for some of you, but not me.

so, ableton was my only friend. i'ts done everything i could have wanted it to do.

it's made me happy

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:24 am
by electronic shaman
I've been playin wit ableton since 2.5 when my mate first showed me and I am still amazed at how awesome it is.

So far, the only thing that I have found that it can't do that I want it to is curved automation envelopes. No biggy but it's something (I am using 7 though, so if it's in 8, I don't know about it)

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:01 am
by james fox
nowaysj wrote:If you trigger a clip w/ a midi event, I assume you can set the clip to only fire on the 1 beat of a bar? Like if you trigger it at 4, it'll wait for 1?
yep, if you set the global launch quantise to 1 bar - it's on the transport at the top, next to the 'play session / play arrangement' toggle.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:18 pm
by contakt321
The_Dza88 wrote:After 2 hours playing around with it figured out a little, this shit nuff hard :cry:
Hey Dza,

What really helped me was running through the built in lessons in Live, have you tried those yet?

Also, there are a bunch of great videos on youtube. The ones from Ableton themselves are good for showing an overview of some of the things you can do. Also, check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUb9Txo ... annel_page

It's electro house, but I found this really inspiring when I was getting started because it showed a very fast workflow.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:22 pm
by hurlingdervish
also click on the little triangle on the very bottom left of the screen it will open a tiny help window that explains whatever the mouse is hovering over

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:39 pm
by DZA
Nice one :D

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:40 pm
by james fox
contakt321 wrote:It's electro house, but I found this really inspiring when I was getting started because it showed a very fast workflow.
aye, one of the best things about live is if you spend a bit of time getting some shit hot sounds and samples together before you start a track, you can make something really nice very quickly indeed...