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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:58 am
by parson
it also makes you soft and grow boobs

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:02 am
by Electric_Head
That's the problem with soya, it's all protam and lab created protein now.

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:16 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
parson wrote:boobs
we need to start a thread on this topic btw...

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:51 am
by Hedley King
signals wrote:if you only eat raw food then you don't have to eat as much. someone told me about a that from a book
(Cooking) makes food tastier, easier to digest and makes the extraction of energy from raw ingredients quicker and more efficient. All useful things if you want to power an over-sized, energy-hungry brain without having to spend all your time foraging and chewing food.

Richard Wrangham, a professor of biological anthropology at Harvard University, has argued that the invention of cooking split the ancestors of humans from the evolutionary path that went on to include modern gorillas and chimpanzees. Cooking allowed our ancestors to develop bigger brains and, in his hypothesis, is the key reason modern humans emerged. The controlled use of fire, according to Wrangham, was a more important milestone in human evolution than the invention of agriculture or eating meat.

Modern humans are biologically adapted to cooked foods, according to Wrangham, because cooking means that food is partly digested before we eat it. Cooked food freed humans from needing to spend half the day chewing tough raw food in the way most other modern primates do – compared to apes, modern humans have much shorter digestive systems and our jaws are much weaker.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/ ... n-question

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:34 pm
by alphacat
The findings on soy are still controversial and highly varied: those subsidizing the studies have agendas.

I do know, however, that natto miso (fermented soy) is the end-all be-all anti-radiation food. Supposedly there were studies done on irradiation of peoples living around Nagasaki & Hiroshima and they kept finding that the Buddhist monks had significantly lower levels; the lowest common denominator was their diet - they ate almost nothing but miso soup (google: Shinichiro Akizuki.) The mechanism is not clearly understood but it's effective enough that Chernobyl & Fukushima survivors were also told to eat a lot of miso...

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:43 pm
by parson
i actually do eat a lot of soy from tofu and stuff but i don't eat it as a protein substitute. especially not in protein shakes full of soy protein.

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:33 pm
by sigbowls
Nevalo wrote:
parson wrote:boobs
we need to start a thread on this topic btw...
or els we will keep making poo threads

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:38 pm
by noam
signals wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
parson wrote:boobs
we need to start a thread on this topic btw...
or els we will keep making poo threads
poobs?

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:55 pm
by Genevieve
signals wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
parson wrote:boobs
we need to start a thread on this topic btw...
or els we will keep making poo threads
The fuck is that supposed to mean, man?

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:03 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
Genevieve wrote:
signals wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
parson wrote:boobs
we need to start a thread on this topic btw...
or els we will keep making poo threads
The fuck is that supposed to mean, man?
tits = scat ?

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:06 pm
by dubfordessert
god life is far too short for me to expend significant amounts of energy on some sort of eating morality. i'm yet to get the basics of social interaction with humans down and y'all want me to love animals? WOAH DUDE. ONE STEP AT A GODDAMN TIME

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:10 pm
by tyger
but dat's life innit, it all comes at yer at once

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:11 pm
by dubfordessert
true. which is why we need steak

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:12 pm
by noam
i didn't eat meat today...

its well hard

but i ate falafel at lunch and had a veggie pizza for dinner...

not even bothered

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:47 am
by bright maroon
Almond Milk is way better than Soy Milk.


Soy Milk turns me into a gigantic stinking fart baloon.

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:48 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
chocolate milk is the one.

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:17 am
by mks
alphacat wrote:The findings on soy are still controversial and highly varied: those subsidizing the studies have agendas.

I do know, however, that natto miso (fermented soy) is the end-all be-all anti-radiation food. Supposedly there were studies done on irradiation of peoples living around Nagasaki & Hiroshima and they kept finding that the Buddhist monks had significantly lower levels; the lowest common denominator was their diet - they ate almost nothing but miso soup (google: Shinichiro Akizuki.) The mechanism is not clearly understood but it's effective enough that Chernobyl & Fukushima survivors were also told to eat a lot of miso...
I have heard that soy is hard for the body to digest and that all of those soy protein products involve a lot of chemicals?

Fermented soy is something else. Miso is a regular part of my diet.

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:21 am
by bright maroon
Oh I love miso - you are right about fermentation...

I hear that's why cheese and yogurt are better for you than straight up milk...
The culturing changes the structure...

Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:34 am
by _v_
Genevieve wrote:
_v_ wrote:Anyway a 200g steak isnt 200g protein, its ABOUT 30 to 40g. pretty much the same as the drink I had.
Closer to 50 chief. There's roughly 25 grams of protein per 100 grams.
_v_ wrote:Also the recommended daily intake of protein DEPENDS ON YOUR WEIGHT but isnt much more than that.
That's waaaay too controversial a claim and it depends on way more factors (body fat, activity, calories in diets, etc). My intake should be about 215 grams.

Besides, there's no way anyone can survive on 40 grams of protein per day. There's 4 calories per gram of protein. And let's say the average guy needs 2500 calories per day and let's say he eats 60 grams of protein per day. 60 x 4 = 240. You think that less than 10% of his daily caloric intake should be from protein, rllly? How much of it should be fat and carbs?
_v_ wrote:1/4 cup of hemp seeds has 15 grams protein.
1 cup tofu 40 grams protein.
1 cup fat free cottage cheese has 31 grams protein.
1 cup soybeans has 30 grams protein.
Egg, large – 6 grams protein


Food for thought.
:corndance:
That's a very misleading list you got thurrr braw. You need to calculate these values per weight to get a decent representation of how much protein is in there (can't name a bunch of values that represent VOLUME, followed with 1 egglol). And chicken/certain seafood still beats all with 30 grams per 100 gram serving.
Its not misleading, didnt realize there were such strict rules on posting a rough guideline of protien in foods other than meat. OK, 1cup soybeans=200g =30g protein. Im pretty sure chicken breast might have the most protein in any food, but didnt realize it was a competetion, im just pointing out that you can get your protein from other sources other than meat. [/u]. & I dont see whats wrong with saying theres around 6g protein in an egg.
Genevieve wrote:["Besides, there's no way anyone can survive on 40 grams of protein per day."
That means noam should be dead. He only had a falafel & a cheese pizza. A quick google tells me thats around 25g protein.

Ask Mr Net Doctor here...
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/focus/nutrit ... rotein.htm

A few snippets.
-"In terms of healthy eating, you should aim to eat a diet with a higher proportion of plant proteins than animal ones.

-"Studies have linked eating a lot of red and processed meat to an increased risk of bowel and stomach cancer."

-"Cooking meat, poultry and fish at high temperatures creates chemicals called heterocyclic amines (HAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). It's thought HAs and PAHs may increase our risk of cancer, but more research is needed. PAHs are also found in the exhaust fumes and tobacco smoke."

-"Plant-based proteins are low in fat and high in fibre, vitamins and minerals"

-"Plant proteins contain phytochemicals that contribute towards health and disease prevention. For example, isoflavones found in soya beans have antioxidant properties, thought to be important in the prevention of cancer"

"How much do I need?

Current advice says protein only has to make up 10 to 15 per cent of your daily diet to meet your body's needs. That's around 55g for men and 45g for women.
(This is allowing ample "saftey-net" room)


Energy and protein
1g carbohydrate: 3.75 calories.
1g protein: 4 calories.
1g fat: 9 calories.
1g alcohol: 7 calories."


Keep it Ital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ital
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:13 pm
by noam
haven't eaten meat for 2 whole days... not stopped farting

yesterday had eggs for breakfast with cup of coffee and some grapes, falafel for lunch, pizza for tea, this morning had a cup of coffee and a coissant, falafel again and pizza again (boring but skint) so yeah, not stopped farting

my mate just came home with a maccie d's tho so i yammed a cheeseburger, should hopefully stop farting now