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Wasn't The Godfather (forget his real name, but he's had other aliases too) meant to be actually very hard?

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garethom wrote:Wasn't The Godfather (forget his real name, but he's had other aliases too) meant to be actually very hard?

Yeah, we was a strip club owner IRL I think I read somewhere and was a legit hard ass as a result.

Bob Holly went into it in depth in his book. Blackman, Bradshaw, Farooq, Jericho, Holly himself, Bart Gunn...all people who could administer a serious ass kicking for real. Apparently Kevin Nash was on the biggest pussies ever

Yeah, heard from a few places too that Triple H is a pussy. Blackman & Farooq don't surprise me, they're absolutely massive.

Is Kurt Angle legitimately hard too? Know he was trying out for the UFC a few years ago.

garethom wrote:Yeah, heard from a few places too that Triple H is a pussy. Blackman & Farooq don't surprise me, they're absolutely massive.

Is Kurt Angle legitimately hard too? Know he was trying out for the UFC a few years ago.

Wouldn't call him legit hard, but I've read in several places that he's strong as fuck as a result of his wrestling background. His fight against Puder was funny as fuck when he nearly tapped to a kimura on live TV;



EDIT - Puder also allegedly mouthed off that he'd beaten Bob Holly at a house show. As a result, Puder got sent into the 2005 Royal Rumble third and basically got the shit beaten out of him by Benoit, Guerrero and Holly early on. They were taking turns to chop him as hard as they could and pissing themselves with laughter whilst they did.

I read the Bob Holly book on wub's recommendation, I think... it's a REALLY entertaining read. Much more "tell all" feeling than Foley's books.

Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of Foley's too..

apparently Haku was the hardest person in the backstage. NOONE fucked with him.

magma wrote:I read the Bob Holly book on wub's recommendation, I think... it's a REALLY entertaining read. Much more "tell all" feeling than Foley's books.

Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of Foley's too..

Also just finished Jericho's first book "Around The World In Spandex". Would recommend. Similar style, from starting out to his WWF debut. Training with Lance Storm, Mexico with Guerrero, Japan with Benoit, ECW, his signing and ridiculous contract with WCW, cruiserweight frustrations that caused him and the Radicalz to jump ship. Slightly lighter tone and considerably less opinionated than Bob Holly's was.


(Also, I never knew he dated Kimona Wanaleya during his ECW days, fair play )

Might bag the Hardcore Holly book. Cheers.

i was listening to jerichos podcast the other day, and he was talking about not wanting to wrestle goldberg because he was shite and didnt wanna put him over.

and after that eric booked him in pretty much every jobber match possible.

I was never a WCW fan, so that's probably a big reason why, but WTF is the draw of Goldberg? He acted like people who don't like wrestling think wrestlers should act.

wub wrote:

magma wrote:I read the Bob Holly book on wub's recommendation, I think... it's a REALLY entertaining read. Much more "tell all" feeling than Foley's books.

Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of Foley's too..

Also just finished Jericho's first book "Around The World In Spandex". Would recommend. Similar style, from starting out to his WWF debut. Training with Lance Storm, Mexico with Guerrero, Japan with Benoit, ECW, his signing and ridiculous contract with WCW, cruiserweight frustrations that caused him and the Radicalz to jump ship. Slightly lighter tone and considerably less opinionated than Bob Holly's was.


(Also, I never knew he dated Kimona Wanaleya during his ECW days, fair play )

Nice one, might give the eBook a whirl over the weekend.

magma wrote:I was never a WCW fan, so that's probably a big reason why, but WTF is the draw of Goldberg? He acted like people who don't like wrestling think wrestlers should act.

wcw was great. less gimmicky (untill russo got involved) and the depth they had in terms of wrestlers who could actually wrestler (not 5 mover men eg cena).

the only thing i had a problem was with the small ring

garethom wrote:Might bag the Hardcore Holly book. Cheers.

There was a summary of it a few pages back;

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=239549&p=3389009&hi ... n#p3389009

(some spoilers, I guess?)

Nevalo wrote:i was listening to jerichos podcast the other day, and he was talking about not wanting to wrestle goldberg because he was shite and didnt wanna put him over.

and after that eric booked him in pretty much every jobber match possible.

Yeah, he goes in depth about that in his book. Basically he was trying to build an angle with Goldberg, dodging him, calling him out in the ring when he wasn't the arena so he'd get a 10 count for not showing, bringing out a midget Goldberg, calling him Greenberg etc etc.

Goldberg apparently didn't get the concept of a feud at all, thought he was taking the piss for real, and basically threatened him. Jericho had this wonderful angle (his words, obviously) all planned out, couple of spots including one where Goldberg literally speared him out of his shoes, but Bishoff shelved the whole thing. Apparently Hogan came to him afterwards and said he (Hogan) thought it was a great idea.

magma wrote:

wub wrote:

magma wrote:I read the Bob Holly book on wub's recommendation, I think... it's a REALLY entertaining read. Much more "tell all" feeling than Foley's books.

Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of Foley's too..

Also just finished Jericho's first book "Around The World In Spandex". Would recommend. Similar style, from starting out to his WWF debut. Training with Lance Storm, Mexico with Guerrero, Japan with Benoit, ECW, his signing and ridiculous contract with WCW, cruiserweight frustrations that caused him and the Radicalz to jump ship. Slightly lighter tone and considerably less opinionated than Bob Holly's was.


(Also, I never knew he dated Kimona Wanaleya during his ECW days, fair play )

Nice one, might give the eBook a whirl over the weekend.

He had the look and he had a great gimmick (to begin with). Shame he couldn't really work for shit, and according to numerous people was downright dangerous to be in the ring with. His botched mule kick against Bret Hart at Starrcade ended Hart's career, he got Regal fired when Regal tried to do some 'proper' wrestling with him and he got shown up as being useless outside of a squash environment.

WCW as a whole I could get behind, especially when it kept itself to 'old fashioned rasslin'... especially pre-96ish, but when it became the WWF Real-Name Retirement Home I just lost interest.

They were much better at designing gimmick matches than the WWF, that's for sure.

Hogan was/is a tnuc. he literally ruined everything.

i remember one of the rumbles where brett was supposed to win, but hogan, ON THE FUCKING DAY, came to vince and sandbagged it saying he should win (even though he was champion at the time)

Nevalo wrote:Hogan was/is a tnuc. he literally ruined everything.

i remember one of the rumbles where brett was supposed to win, but hogan, ON THE FUCKING DAY, came to vince and sandbagged it saying he should win (even though he was champion at the time)

I think my first ever "Oh, fuck THIS" moment with WWF was Wrestlemania 9 when Hart had to drop the strap to Yokozuna (fine) only for Hogan to come in out of the blue and win it with a single leg drop.

Hogan is a massive, massive cunt.

magma wrote:They were much better at designing gimmick matches than the WWF, that's for sure.

"Buff Bagwell's Mother On A Pole" match being an obvious highlight.

Nevalo wrote:Hogan was/is a tnuc. he literally ruined everything.

i remember one of the rumbles where brett was supposed to win, but hogan, ON THE FUCKING DAY, came to vince and sandbagged it saying he should win (even though he was champion at the time)

Not to mention the end of Wrestlemania IX where Hogan demanded Vince that he win the title after the main event match had finished. So Bret Hart loses to Yokuzuna, then Hogan comes out and wins in a 22s squash.

Nearly as bad as Jim Ross in a toga


EDIT - I see Magma had the same sentiments

What's Hogan up to at the moment? He was on Loose Women the other day presume he's pushing something.