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jaydot wrote:Racist cos I want to maintain a sense of identity

This is really interesting to me. I'm not taking the piss in the slightest - but could you write a few sentences on what you consider the "English Identity" to be other than someone that lives in England?

I struggle to even grasp it as a concept tbh, but I get the impression from conversations like these that some people have a very strong sense of what "English" means or "should" mean.

so your prepared to vote in a party that would remove the benefits of someone who is in the same position you were in. not trying to insult you but that comes across as very selfish

magma wrote:

jaydot wrote:Racist cos I want to maintain a sense of identity

This is really interesting to me. I'm not taking the piss in the slightest - but could you write a few sentences on what you consider the "English Identity" to be other than someone that lives in England?

I struggle to even grasp it as a concept tbh, but I get the impression from conversations like these that some people have a very strong sense of what "English" means.

A sense of national pride in essence, where we aren't afraid to fly the Union Jack cos we're "racist" and we aren't afraid to celebrate national days, British customs etc.

are you afraid of doing that? I'm not.

jaydot wrote:A sense of national pride in essence, where we aren't afraid to fly the Union Jack cos we're "racist" and we aren't afraid to celebrate national days, British customs etc.

Right, but what does that actually mean? People fly a flag because they want to represent something they're proud of, surely? What is it that you're proud of Britain for in particular or would you be as proud of wherever you were born? Which British customs in particular are you proudest of?

There was an awful lot of proud flag waving all over the country for the Jubilee... and the Royal Wedding... and the Olympics... and every England sports occasion... and the Proms every year... what extra excuses to revel in Britishness or Englishness do we need more of in your opinion? Should we take the American route and have our kids declare their allegiance to the flag before school?

jaydot wrote: A sense of national pride in essence, where we aren't afraid to fly the Union Jack cos we're "racist" and we aren't afraid to celebrate national days, British customs etc.

Who is scared of flying the union flag? When was anyone scared to celebrate St Georges day? What are British customs?

jaydot why do you want to vote in a party that will cut the benefits you were on?

scspkr99 wrote:

jaydot wrote: What are British customs?

Anything that is old and is Red and Gold in colour.

magma wrote:

jaydot wrote:Racist cos I want to maintain a sense of identity

This is really interesting to me. I'm not taking the piss in the slightest - but could you write a few sentences on what you consider the "English Identity" to be other than someone that lives in England?

Also this thread reminded me of this:

m8son wrote:

jesslem wrote:

m8son wrote:cos the green party are shit and their leader's a criminal

Mate, you're a criminal.

i'm not trying to run the country

Should that stop you if you're otherwise prepared and qualified for the Job?
Also, chances are everyone you vote for has some questionable legal history. Whether caught or evaded.

If you look at estimates of how many people celebrated with street parties etc for the Jubilee it was like 5% or something. I swear most people don't give a shit about patriotism unless they're stuck up to fuck. There's nothing really going for the country anymore as far as I can see, except a higher education industry...

^Royal Wedding was massively supported in Glasgow

Again.. national pride is for people who have achieved fuck all for themselves and have no pride in themselves or their own work. Bang on about 2 world wars in your early 20s like you contributed to it lol.

Being born somewhere requires no effort and is based entirely on luck, how can you be proud of that? Be glad you're English all you like, but pride? Such an odd concept to me.

Muncey wrote:Again.. national pride is for people who have achieved fuck all for themselves and have no pride in themselves or their own work. Bang on about 2 world wars in your early 20s like you contributed to it lol.

Being born somewhere requires no effort and is based entirely on luck, how can you be proud of that? Be glad you're English all you like, but pride? Such an odd concept to me.

exactly. nationality is an accident of birth

imo english are the worst people in england

like if i had to stereotype a whole group for being the shittest it would be us brits for sure

Agent 47 wrote:imo english are the worst people in england

like if i had to stereotype a whole group for being the shittest it would be us brits for sure

Do you prefer japanese tourists or american tourists?

i just mean as a culture

like yeah we have music bla bla bla

but mostly, as a culture, we're lazy broke fucks who expect the world for little in return, and the only thing driving us is the idea of a few pints and a kebab on saturday

Agent 47 wrote:i just mean as a culture

like yeah we have music bla bla bla

but mostly, as a culture, we're lazy broke fucks who expect the world for little in return, and the only thing driving us is the idea of a few pints and a kebab on saturday

You're confusing 'us' with students.

Exactly. The UK is fucked because the previous two generations generally rolled over when the politicians decided to protect the rich few at the expense of the many

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

Agent 47 wrote:i just mean as a culture

like yeah we have music bla bla bla

but mostly, as a culture, we're lazy broke fucks who expect the world for little in return, and the only thing driving us is the idea of a few pints and a kebab on saturday

You're confusing 'us' with students.

I think you're either taking it too literally or just being facetious.