Not to be the noob of the thread, but I'm terrible at making growls, the one that I've always raved over was KOAN Sound's growls. ESPECIALLY the one in Talk Box & Max Out. When I try to make that sound myself, I have like no clue where to start.
I have so many ideas of what I could do with that sound its ridiculous. I think culprate uses it too.
Sound at 1.15 on.
Sound at 0.23 on.
Sound at 0.35 on.
I feel like they're some kind of reeses but I really could use some help on this guys.
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:47 am
by twilitez
If were talking growls, my samples and some others have shown more complex sounds, this is all end-process filtering.
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 am
by Augment
JicloTutorials wrote:
blinkesko wrote:Damn Jiclo, that was pretty awesome IMO. Could maybe do with a tad more work, but it was pretty dope. Good job, man
thanks man! wanna expand on what you think needs improvement?
I just feel like there could be more in the intro, like some strings playing the chords, just something constant I think, filling out the space between the main melody.
But fuck man, I've listened to it like 10 times or so now, it's so good haha. The tempo switch was just perfect dude.
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:07 pm
by mromgwtf
Soundcloud
Zero processing. Only massive. Only square-saw 1 wave.
blinkesko wrote:Damn Jiclo, that was pretty awesome IMO. Could maybe do with a tad more work, but it was pretty dope. Good job, man
thanks man! wanna expand on what you think needs improvement?
I just feel like there could be more in the intro, like some strings playing the chords, just something constant I think, filling out the space between the main melody.
But fuck man, I've listened to it like 10 times or so now, it's so good haha. The tempo switch was just perfect dude.
haha im glad you like it. i know what you mean actually. i took some inspiration from this song and so i didnt really feel like it didnt need to be filled out
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.
THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.
then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)
and resampling until it sounds good.
Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:53 pm
by JicloTutorials
Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.
THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.
then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)
and resampling until it sounds good.
Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:29 pm
by Italus
JicloTutorials wrote:
Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.
THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.
then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)
and resampling until it sounds good.
Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload...
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:13 pm
by Scarcellex
I used the methods described on here to come up with the growls in this track I made a while ago
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.
THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.
then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)
and resampling until it sounds good.
Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload...
Where abouts would you EQ the parallel channel?
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 pm
by tomz
mromgwtf wrote:Soundcloud
Zero processing. Only massive. Only square-saw 1 wave.
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.
THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.
then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)
and resampling until it sounds good.
Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload...
Where abouts would you EQ the parallel channel?
i meant "id continue EQ shaping it. as well as a parallel processing it, as well as resampling"
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:27 am
by mromgwtf
Scarcellex wrote:I used the methods described on here to come up with the growls in this track I made a while ago
you should be able to tell where the growls are (0.35). Instead of just having the growl, i decided to build a bit around it. Soundcloud
I'm definitely looking for ways to improve my growls, I like making them so far
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:49 pm
by balthazarely
Huts wrote:
Italus wrote:The hardest part of making a growl sound good is EQ. I can never get it right with growls, anybody have certain methods they use? It would be greatly appreciated!
i see in the fx chain your using a bifilter.. just curious as to what sorta filter its using/how your modulating is (if you are)..
thanks
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:21 pm
by Huts
balthazarely wrote:
Huts wrote:
Italus wrote:The hardest part of making a growl sound good is EQ. I can never get it right with growls, anybody have certain methods they use? It would be greatly appreciated!
i see in the fx chain your using a bifilter.. just curious as to what sorta filter its using/how your modulating is (if you are)..
thanks
15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:36 pm
by dotcurrency
Huts wrote:
15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud
mind sharing some tips or something on how you got it to growl like that? That's pretty much the exact kind of growl I'm trying to achieve here.
Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:55 am
by Huts
dotcurrency wrote:
Huts wrote:
15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud
mind sharing some tips or something on how you got it to growl like that? That's pretty much the exact kind of growl I'm trying to achieve here.
I made a reese and have 2 notch filters controlled by 2 different LFO's automating constantly. I then used the bandpass filter to get the movement then used the EQ/Overdrive/Exciter to bring out the high's that got pretty muffled by the filter then tossed a spreader on there for some stereo effect (better heard through headphones). Pretty sure it was just 1 note held down as well
