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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:19 am
by ephyks
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not really a growl. more of just a phasing reese. anyways, take a crack at my attempt.

second one has a bit more movement. just automated around the phaser cutoff. sounds the same pretty much but has a nice crispier end.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:26 am
by Augment
Second bit was nice, atleast on my iPhone :p

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:58 am
by dotcurrency
Huts wrote: I made a reese and have 2 notch filters controlled by 2 different LFO's automating constantly. I then used the bandpass filter to get the movement then used the EQ/Overdrive/Exciter to bring out the high's that got pretty muffled by the filter then tossed a spreader on there for some stereo effect (better heard through headphones). Pretty sure it was just 1 note held down as well

Cheers man, any clue what FL Studio's alternative would be to a notch filter?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:33 am
by Maxxan
dotcurrency wrote:
Huts wrote: I made a reese and have 2 notch filters controlled by 2 different LFO's automating constantly. I then used the bandpass filter to get the movement then used the EQ/Overdrive/Exciter to bring out the high's that got pretty muffled by the filter then tossed a spreader on there for some stereo effect (better heard through headphones). Pretty sure it was just 1 note held down as well

Cheers man, any clue what FL Studio's alternative would be to a notch filter?
Fruity Parametric EQ 2, toggle one of the bands to a notch and then automate frequency?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:47 am
by mromgwtf
dotcurrency wrote:My first attempt at growls:

you should be able to tell where the growls are (0.35). Instead of just having the growl, i decided to build a bit around it.
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I'm definitely looking for ways to improve my growls, I like making them so far :6:
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:lebowski:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:44 pm
by Augment
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:43 pm
by dotcurrency
mromgwtf wrote:
dotcurrency wrote:My first attempt at growls:

you should be able to tell where the growls are (0.35). Instead of just having the growl, i decided to build a bit around it.
Soundcloud

I'm definitely looking for ways to improve my growls, I like making them so far :6:
Vengeance Dubstep Essentials vol. 1
:lebowski:

Yeah haha, just threw some of the melodies in the A key around the 1 growl pattern :W:

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:30 pm
by hhans
Reversed wrote:
btw: tristams new tune has some really weird, clean formant synth going on:

Dunno if you're familiar with Errorsmith's Razor, but the formant waves/formant filter in it can get some super clean weird formants that sound similar to that video you posted. When I get home ill see if I can make some stuff with Razor and put it up here.

edit: fixed autocorrect stuff.

edit again: Soundcloud

First nine or so are made with only Errorsmith's Razor. I was demonstrating the super clean formants/vowels that Reversed was talking about. Not exactly like Tristam, but similar and possibly a method that could be expanded on. Again, they were made with only Razor, not any effects on the channel. The rest are various growls that I have made and saved as presets in Ableton. Let me know if you guys are interested in them and I can elaborate.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:20 am
by Crysist
dotcurrency wrote:Not to be the noob of the thread, but I'm terrible at making growls, the one that I've always raved over was KOAN Sound's growls. ESPECIALLY the one in Talk Box & Max Out. When I try to make that sound myself, I have like no clue where to start.
I have so many ideas of what I could do with that sound its ridiculous. I think culprate uses it too.


Sound at 1.15 on.


Sound at 0.23 on.


Sound at 0.35 on.




I feel like they're some kind of reeses but I really could use some help on this guys. :u:
Here's my "signature" sound, that is aimed at a koan/culprate style bass and growl.
It's a Reece with heaps of fx and filters,
Will go more into detail if wanted :)
http://soundcloud.com/acetoneofficial/dare

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:01 am
by VirtualMark
Crysist - That's some good sound design! I'd be interested to hear your methods, mainly what sounds you start with and what processing you use on the different frequencies? And any other tips you'd like to share. 8)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:59 am
by Crysist
VirtualMark wrote:Crysist - That's some good sound design! I'd be interested to hear your methods, mainly what sounds you start with and what processing you use on the different frequencies? And any other tips you'd like to share. 8)
First off Thankyou :)

Basically, my sound starts as a Reece bass, but I steer completely clear of any phasing, then I have two notch filters, two band pass filters, a low pass and a high pass as well, all of which I automate depending what I'm after. The growls I have a slight cut to the high and low freqs using the two cut filters. I then have the two band pass filters sweeping away from each other then back again through the mid range while one notch dips the freqs in between them but barely moves.

I then split the frequencies into the usual high, mid and low. A bit of saturation on each as needed, some camel crusher on the mids, then a phaser, chorus, more saturation, then a wow filter, then some freq shifters, possibly not in that order as I'm not at home at the moment. The mids arent always in the mix either, as my growls come in, I automate the level of the mids to peak at 0 as the growl ends. This gives it a more vocal feel and sound.

The punchy main bass of this has no mids at all. It's mainly the two notches sweeping around abit.

I'm no expert on any of this and have literally taught myself everything I know. So their may be a "proper" way to do things that I don't know about, but, it works for me and I can't really see ppl out there getting sounds like these for the minute which is just fine with me :)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:52 am
by dotcurrency
Crysist wrote: Basically, my sound starts as a Reece bass, but I steer completely clear of any phasing, then I have two notch filters, two band pass filters, a low pass and a high pass as well, all of which I automate depending what I'm after. The growls I have a slight cut to the high and low freqs using the two cut filters. I then have the two band pass filters sweeping away from each other then back again through the mid range while one notch dips the freqs in between them but barely moves.

I then split the frequencies into the usual high, mid and low. A bit of saturation on each as needed, some camel crusher on the mids, then a phaser, chorus, more saturation, then a wow filter, then some freq shifters, possibly not in that order as I'm not at home at the moment. The mids arent always in the mix either, as my growls come in, I automate the level of the mids to peak at 0 as the growl ends. This gives it a more vocal feel and sound.

The punchy main bass of this has no mids at all. It's mainly the two notches sweeping around abit.

I'm no expert on any of this and have literally taught myself everything I know. So their may be a "proper" way to do things that I don't know about, but, it works for me and I can't really see ppl out there getting sounds like these for the minute which is just fine with me :)

Man, that is excellent sound! I've been doing almost the same thing you described, but the sound I get is more, midrange-ish. Idk what it is I'm doing wrong.

Here's my set up. using FM8. Also, note that Ohmnicide is off, because it adds to the midrange sound imo.
http://puu.sh/18tjy


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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:20 pm
by kavaxofficial
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think i did good growls in heeeere

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:05 pm
by hhans
Just a quick one I made during my free period today. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

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And here's the .als for you Ableton users.

http://www.mediafire.com/?9fg049ripayrxrd

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:52 pm
by Swamo
I too love Razor. It's so easy to make growls with this synth, and as hans said the formants are really clean.

Here are some basic growls I made in Ableton. With the first two I modulated the formant in the first oscillator, with the second two I modulated the pitch, and with the last two I modulated the velocity of the formant in the vowel filter.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:05 am
by XoGeN
I found this patch and I really like it. I just plopped a Sausage Fattener, Limiter, and other shit. Kinda talky kinda growly. There is also a pitch envelope but it doesn't make too much of a difference. Play around with it.

http://imgur.com/a/qLIqv#0

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:25 pm
by mromgwtf
XoGeN wrote:I found this patch and I really like it. I just plopped a Sausage Fattener, Limiter, and other shit. Kinda talky kinda growly. There is also a pitch envelope but it doesn't make too much of a difference. Play around with it.

http://imgur.com/a/qLIqv#0
Who the hell uses talkwah
It fucking sucks

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:43 am
by Trichome
Soundcloud

not really growls but they have a vocal property to them

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:07 pm
by mromgwtf
Trainrek wrote:Soundcloud

not really growls but they have a vocal property to them
Sounds like knife party, but the kick is too high :s

How did you make it?

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:34 pm
by Trichome
NI Razors filters, i forget which one