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Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:17 pm
by cryptic
Any thing with massive peaks sticking out....i tend to limit/compress softly first to grab the peaks then compress for body. The Limiter brings down the big peaks while the compressor add smooth and deeper compression
My chain for bus groups
eq
sat/dist
width processor
Waves 1176 (for peaks)
waves la2a to (smooth compression)
eq
I found using two compressors gives me more control as i dont like having more than 4db gain deduction on one compressor. Having two gently compressors it twice.
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:23 pm
by Today
i like how you said it "gently compressors it twice" heheh
but when i do it i like to equalizer the signal after compressoring it first, and then compressor it again after equalizering it
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:30 pm
by therapist
Today wrote:i like how you said it "gently compressors it twice" heheh
but when i do it i like to equalizer the signal after compressoring it first, and then compressor it again after equalizering it
Undoing the EQ work that you've just done?
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:18 pm
by e-motion
If your bass is too mudy or lacks brightness try this (in Ableton, but can be adapted to any DAW):
1) Create a new Audio Rack as an insert to the bass.
2) Create 2 new Chains, name one "Dry" and the other "Wet".
3) Add the following effects in order to the "Wet" chain: EQ8, Saturator, EQ8, Reverb (optional), Stereo Enchancer.
First EQ8: Highpass that beast (I mean a lot)! Some boosting on the high end might work here but before you do it, make sure you complete the chain.
Saturator: Push the drive up, tweak the Dry/Wet, try all the distortion plugins.
Second EQ8: Mostly to fix artifacts of the distortion... most likely an highpass is enough.
Reverb: Short tail, low wet.
Stereo Enchancer: Push it to the max.
You got yourself a highly tweakable harmonic exciter
Play arround with both of the chain volumes, the highpass frequencies and the drive to get to it. A/B with the original signal by turning the Audio Rack on and off and make sure the levels stay the same when A/B'ing (chain volumes).
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:25 pm
by Today
therapist wrote:Today wrote:i like how you said it "gently compressors it twice" heheh
but when i do it i like to equalizer the signal after compressoring it first, and then compressor it again after equalizering it
Undoing the EQ work that you've just done?
naw... the only way to undo it would be to bypass the fucker
pre-EQ higher ratio, post-EQ very mild if any at all
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 pm
by therapist
Today wrote:therapist wrote:Today wrote:i like how you said it "gently compressors it twice" heheh
but when i do it i like to equalizer the signal after compressoring it first, and then compressor it again after equalizering it
Undoing the EQ work that you've just done?
naw... the only way to undo it would be to bypass the fucker
pre-EQ higher ratio, post-EQ very mild if any at all
Not literally 'undoing' the EQ, but counteracting it. Compression will change the balance of frequencies after you've (presumably) got them right. Why would the EQ affect the dynamics so much as to need another compressor on top?
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:38 pm
by Earjax
jonahmann wrote:To use reverb to thicken the sound (rather than for a deliberate, creative, overt effect), turn the wet signal up until you can hear the reverb, then pull it back a little.
Use different reverb setting on different instruments. This has a psychological effect that sounds like everything is in a different room, which is impossible.
If you're going to EQ out subbass and/or bass, do it before compressing. The larger soundwaves will more greatly affect the compressor - Then EQ the sound after.
My stock processing on each instrument is
EQ out subbass/bass (optional)
compress (6:1 ratio)
EQ to taste
hint of reverb
I do this while listening in context, and not with the signal on solo.
It actually depends, the bass will affect compression, however in a lot of instances it affects it in a good way, I recommend trying both to see which sounds better.
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:10 pm
by nowaysj
Compressors are triggered by audio energy, most of that energy is in the lows, removing that energy w an eq pre comp will change how the comp works/sounds. Try it for yourself maybe we're pulling an Internet practical joke on u... It's been known to happen.
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:30 pm
by Today
therapist wrote:Today wrote:therapist wrote:Today wrote:i like how you said it "gently compressors it twice" heheh
but when i do it i like to equalizer the signal after compressoring it first, and then compressor it again after equalizering it
Undoing the EQ work that you've just done?
naw... the only way to undo it would be to bypass the fucker
pre-EQ higher ratio, post-EQ very mild if any at all
Not literally 'undoing' the EQ, but counteracting it. Compression will change the balance of frequencies after you've (presumably) got them right. Why would the EQ affect the dynamics so much as to need another compressor on top?
either to catch a resonant peak or colour the sound further.. usually just to limit
Re: Random processing tip of the day
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:39 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:Work fast, pay someone to fix your problems.
This is going in my quotes!
production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:41 pm
by skanky beats
put reverb on it
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:21 pm
by nowaysj
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:07 pm
by skanky beats
nowaysj wrote:
this ones better
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:31 pm
by JTMMusicuk
id say its a bit worse
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:41 pm
by skanky beats
JTMMusicuk wrote:id say its a bit worse
subjective
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:42 pm
by JTMMusicuk
Re: production tip of the day
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:54 pm
by skanky beats
JTMMusicuk wrote:ok, you were right... this one is better!
Re: Random Production Tips Thread™
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:51 pm
by antipode
not compressing is the new compression
Gosh guys keep up eh
Re: Random Production Tips Thread™
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:56 pm
by Climax
when using multiband compression, sidechain the lows to the kick and the mids to the snare, really makes a difference in getting both the kick and the snare to come out
thats is, if you are into the whole sidechaining thing, which most people arent it seems lol
just a random tip
Re: Random Production Tips Thread™
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:19 pm
by Earjax
cut your lows AFTER compressing, on your bass/mids, makes the sound fatter and the compression less obvious.
