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magma wrote:
Gotta feel for old Man City fans though... must be bizarre to have spent the best part of 2 decades traipsing around shitty clubs and clinging on to life in the shadow of United only to become the most hated "new money" club in the country overnight.

Word, how would the boss of life in mars feel if he saw the actual situation?

Tbh and this is just my stupid oppinion but i get the impression that there's a lot of racism in liverpool fc. Not just with Carragher being a dumb shit every time his mouth is open.

DiegoSapiens wrote:

magma wrote:
Gotta feel for old Man City fans though... must be bizarre to have spent the best part of 2 decades traipsing around shitty clubs and clinging on to life in the shadow of United only to become the most hated "new money" club in the country overnight.

Word, how would the boss of life in mars feel if he saw the actual situation?

Im sure David Bowie supports some prl club tbf, don't know if he is still in charge tho.

i mean the english series not the bowie song hahahaha

wub wrote:

southstar wrote:I know Liverpool fans and they would be unbearable if they won it

This.

Is this because of 10+ years of mid table finishes and still claims to be a top European side?

besides loathing city and chelsea, i actively like liverpool at the moment

- nuff respect for their owners handling of the club of late, particulary their 'go fuck yourself' attitude over Suarez. they stood fast and is an example of how clubs can trump player power if they are strong enough

- giving Rodgers the time required to make a difference. shit first season but were not unrealistic, gave him time, and now they are reaping the rewards, another strong example of how clubs should be run that clubs like Spurs should take note of

- exciting football full of goals and attacking play. I think LFC are bringing a lot to the prem this year and they have gone about it the right way

And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

Yeah, because Southampton never do that.

wub wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

Yeah, because Southampton never do that.

Which one of the big boys do you think will buy Lallana?

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

this is the misconception that im on about

that some times smells a bit racist or at least nationalistic. like gerrard saying prl league needs more english talent or carragher believing the national coach has to be english. in this respect moyes was clearly a bad idea for united, think of how bad an idea it would be now to look for a british alternative to moyes. its a dumb idea to implement in a busyness basicly. even when its a busyness that is culture dependant.

in no way or form will or can it ever benefit english football to believe that it's the best or the most effective way to go about football.
english football has never been the best at anything.

having said all this negative shit and with no intention of offence, i completely agree with what murky said.

rodgers is great and the part of the reason is because he left england for a bit and had his education elsewhere.

but suarez deserves some credit in attitude change aswell. a lot of people should take cue from how he is now at least 'sort of accepted' despite almost fecal if not feral tantrums.

southstar wrote:

wub wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

Yeah, because Southampton never do that.

Which one of the big boys do you think will buy Lallana?

Lallana I can see going to Spurs
Shaw to Arsenal for a ridiculous fee
Rodriguez staying put
Lambert going to someone like Newcastle/Stoke, only to turn into another James Beattie.

wub wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

Yeah, because Southampton never do that.

never said liverpool was exclusive in this.

the reason sterling or ibe or henderson is comming up is also because they learn from players of suarez level. there's no way around it

wub wrote:

southstar wrote:

wub wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:And as a plus for you guys, a lot of it is through the development of English players

Yeah, because Southampton never do that.

Which one of the big boys do you think will buy Lallana?

Lallana I can see going to Spurs
Shaw to Arsenal for a ridiculous fee
Rodriguez staying put
Lambert going to someone like Newcastle/Stoke, only to turn into another James Beattie.

Lallana and Rodriguez I agree, Shaw will end up at Utd, Lambert will probably stay until he's too old to be any good

hubb wrote:the national coach has to be english.

Is it just me that thinks national teams should be represented by the best of their nation, be that players, coaches, scouts, manager, physios, sports scientists, etc?

Almost feels pointless having national teams being managed by coaching staff from a different country.

Yeah lol if saying that the coach should be english is racist then the whole concept of international football is racist.

wub wrote:
Lallana I can see going to Spurs
Shaw to Arsenal for a ridiculous fee
Rodriguez staying put
Lambert going to someone like Newcastle/Stoke, only to turn into another James Beattie.

Either Lallana or Rodriguez will most likely go to United. The battle for Luke Shaw is between Chelsea and City. Arsenal would never pay the £30m+ asking price for him.

garethom

should be

has to

they are not entirely the same thing, but the same intention.
one has breathing room when there isn't anyone available and the other just throws it all on the floor. like united would if they went for a new scott now. or england has done with hodgeson or liverpool with carrol

but ofcourse if rodgers can find english talent in his club then its a given and it makes sence.

when it gets to the point of moyes trying to nationalize januzaj or arteta, it shows that ridiculous pressure and what measures they are willing to take and on what basis.

striving for an ideal takes longer than trying to define yourself via one transfer window, like we've seen a lot of clubs try to do recently. like madrid after mou.

Shaw aint going arsenal we have Gibbs and a Spanish international left back already.

Chambers however, quite likely if Sagna goes.

Shaw to spuds or Chelsea I reckon

Just noticed there's no Match of the Day tonight or tomorrow night, bit annoying