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I'll have been producing for 2 years at the end of June.

about 2 yrs a few months for dubstep tho

abZ wrote:I meant to ask in the last post, purely out of curiosity... how does one go from classical to EDM? Seems kind of like a step down in a way. I had a friend that played French Horn in orchestras and went to college for it and then he got into Prog House and Downtempo. Just seems kind of weird to me. I mean I love jazz if I could play like those guys do I don't think I would be messing around with dubstep but jazz is over my head whereas I can do dubstep

Well- I see where you are coming from... but I still disagree in many ways. I have always had a problem with the concept of 'high art' versus 'low art'.... To me, good is good, bad is bad... while there is plenty of bad EDM, there is also plenty of bad classical music. I think it is easy to forget, because most of the classical music that is listened to today, is the music that was good enough to survive for hundreds of years (or the music good enough to be worthy enough to be comparable to music that has lasted for hundreds of years). I mean seriously, think of how good a piece of music has to be to last for hundreds of years... even the baddest of badmen in dubstep have only been around for a few years (certainly under a decade). It puts shit into perspective real quick.

On the other hand - many classical composers have respected, if not revered, music that was considered "low art" for ages. Dvorak & Brahms constantly used gypsy music as a basis for some of their most famous compositions... and even they were hardly the first ones to do so.

As for me personally - I came to it as yet another form of expression. I see DAWs as the modern-day handwritten score... except, now, I don't have to worry about quality-control. Not everything I do is dancefloor-oriented... and I can create & re-create what I have in my head without having to worry about whether or not the brass section will be drunk during the premiere performance. However, for me, working within electronic music isn't mutually exclusive to working in classical music. I was a booking agent for Columbia Artists Management when I released my debut 12" & album. Now I DJ on Sub.FM, release records, and play gigs all over Europe... but I still perform as a cellist and teach advanced & beginner students alike. It's funny when I show up to a lesson... only to find out that a student has Googled me... and asks "Are you Mad EP?"

...But then again, if I am there to teach... I am there to teach, whether it be how to become a better cellist, to write a better string quartet, or how to get dem phat bass lines....

tripwire22 wrote:

Basic A wrote:Mad EP! Big up the 24 breaks dude, I didnt know you were on DSF.

Agree Big up for the 24 breaks

Thanks to both of you... that was a special project to me. Glad you liked it.

Mad EP wrote:

abZ wrote:I meant to ask in the last post, purely out of curiosity... how does one go from classical to EDM? Seems kind of like a step down in a way. I had a friend that played French Horn in orchestras and went to college for it and then he got into Prog House and Downtempo. Just seems kind of weird to me. I mean I love jazz if I could play like those guys do I don't think I would be messing around with dubstep but jazz is over my head whereas I can do dubstep

Well- I see where you are coming from... but I still disagree in many ways. I have always had a problem with the concept of 'high art' versus 'low art'.... To me, good is good, bad is bad... while there is plenty of bad EDM, there is also plenty of bad classical music. I think it is easy to forget, because most of the classical music that is listened to today, is the music that was good enough to survive for hundreds of years (or the music good enough to be worthy enough to be comparable to music that has lasted for hundreds of years). I mean seriously, think of how good a piece of music has to be to last for hundreds of years... even the baddest of badmen in dubstep have only been around for a few years (certainly under a decade). It puts shit into perspective real quick.

On the other hand - many classical composers have respected, if not revered, music that was considered "low art" for ages. Dvorak & Brahms constantly used gypsy music as a basis for some of their most famous compositions... and even they were hardly the first ones to do so.

As for me personally - I came to it as yet another form of expression. I see DAWs as the modern-day handwritten score... except, now, I don't have to worry about quality-control. Not everything I do is dancefloor-oriented... and I can create & re-create what I have in my head without having to worry about whether or not the brass section will be drunk during the premiere performance. However, for me, working within electronic music isn't mutually exclusive to working in classical music. I was a booking agent for Columbia Artists Management when I released my debut 12" & album. Now I DJ on Sub.FM, release records, and play gigs all over Europe... but I still perform as a cellist and teach advanced & beginner students alike. It's funny when I show up to a lesson... only to find out that a student has Googled me... and asks "Are you Mad EP?"

...But then again, if I am there to teach... I am there to teach, whether it be how to become a better cellist, to write a better string quartet, or how to get dem phat bass lines....

I didn't really mean to put this music down, I just didn't find the right words to explain it basically. I still can't find the words, oh well Very interesting tho

Mad -- feelin that post! and i totally agree.. it's weird how people from the different musical worlds all look down on each other... i too share a love of classical music, and i often will open my DAW do compose it, if i don't feel like physically playing it. of course, it doesn't come out sounding like traditional classical music, since I embrace FM and subtractive synthesis.. but it can express the same feelings.. which is all that I ever try to achieve. all music has the same goal. it's so strange to me how not everyone realizes this..

I've been producing for 4 months. I finally got a nice set up and things are running smoothly.

It has become such a big part of my life that I even decided to switch my major in college to music, and I am also in a vocational program for a professional certificate in music technology.

I haven't made anything that sounds bad yet, but I haven't made a full track. I'm the single parent of a 4 yr old... I have her full custody... and I when I'm not in school full-time, I work with handicapped children for my local elementary school district.

Time to myself is limited... but dubstep and jungle are my outlets. I started producing in an attempt to stay sober & its working. I've found music to be a much healthier addiction. Its the safest high.

I'm checking this place out to see what its all about. I'm diggin' what I see so far. Definitely a lot of interesting personalities...

Novelty wrote:I've been producing for 4 months. I finally got a nice set up and things are running smoothly.

It has become such a big part of my life that I even decided to switch my major in college to music, and I am also in a vocational program for a professional certificate in music technology.

I haven't made anything that sounds bad yet, but I haven't made a full track. I'm the single parent of a 4 yr old... I have her full custody... and I when I'm not in school full-time, I work with handicapped children for my local elementary school district.

Time to myself is limited... but dubstep and jungle are my outlets. I started producing in an attempt to stay sober & its working. I've found music to be a much healthier addiction. Its the safest high.

I'm checking this place out to see what its all about. I'm diggin' what I see so far. Definitely a lot of interesting personalities...

interesting. if you don't mind me asking, how did you get into bass music? doesn't sound like you're the type to go to raves all the time, lol

I don't go to raves often... when I go its because 16 bit or Rusko is close by.. Saw Emalkay and 16 bit last week, but that was the first time in a long time. Raves in southern california are essentially underage, orgiastic overdose parties.. and its not my cup of tea.

I liked jungle before I knew I liked it (because of a sample from Slipknot's song Eyeless). Once I found out what drum and bass was, thats when my story begins.

Ewun was my first exposure to drum n bass back in 2006. It was love at first sight and I got heavily involved with Lifted and Vision (and artists of similar influence) right off the bat. Evol Intent is pretty much local, and its a small scene so if you're in it, you're pretty much in. After getting a taste of the new stuff I became more interested in the roots of Drum n Bass and immersed myself in pure old-school jungle (92-94 is the sweet spot for me). Started quite a collection in fact.

As I became more involved in the music, I started DJ'ing, but after ALL of my equipment was stolen, I decided to go down the production route and have found it to be much more enjoyable.

I go to weekly shows we have here in town. All of them are at small, grimey bars with some 'ok' local dj's.. but I'll take what I can get when I can get it.

Anyways, I just love the bass.. It desensitizes me. Some fucked up shit has gone down in the past 5 years and instead of using drugs I've found bass. I can't explain what it does to me, or for me.. I've just never felt anything like it before.

Novelty wrote:I've been producing for 4 months. I finally got a nice set up and things are running smoothly.

It has become such a big part of my life that I even decided to switch my major in college to music, and I am also in a vocational program for a professional certificate in music technology.

I haven't made anything that sounds bad yet, but I haven't made a full track. I'm the single parent of a 4 yr old... I have her full custody... and I when I'm not in school full-time, I work with handicapped children for my local elementary school district.

Time to myself is limited... but dubstep and jungle are my outlets. I started producing in an attempt to stay sober & its working. I've found music to be a much healthier addiction. Its the safest high.

I'm checking this place out to see what its all about. I'm diggin' what I see so far. Definitely a lot of interesting personalities...

Big up. Welcome to DSF.

Any tracks you need feedback on make sure you post tham in the "Feedback" sticky and we'll give them a listen.

Peace

great thread.

Novelty wrote:I don't go to raves often... when I go its because 16 bit or Rusko is close by.. Saw Emalkay and 16 bit last week, but that was the first time in a long time. Raves in southern california are essentially underage, orgiastic overdose parties.. and its not my cup of tea.

I liked jungle before I knew I liked it (because of a sample from Slipknot's song Eyeless). Once I found out what drum and bass was, thats when my story begins.

Ewun was my first exposure to drum n bass back in 2006. It was love at first sight and I got heavily involved with Lifted and Vision (and artists of similar influence) right off the bat. Evol Intent is pretty much local, and its a small scene so if you're in it, you're pretty much in. After getting a taste of the new stuff I became more interested in the roots of Drum n Bass and immersed myself in pure old-school jungle (92-94 is the sweet spot for me). Started quite a collection in fact.

As I became more involved in the music, I started DJ'ing, but after ALL of my equipment was stolen, I decided to go down the production route and have found it to be much more enjoyable.

I go to weekly shows we have here in town. All of them are at small, grimey bars with some 'ok' local dj's.. but I'll take what I can get when I can get it.

Anyways, I just love the bass.. It desensitizes me. Some fucked up shit has gone down in the past 5 years and instead of using drugs I've found bass. I can't explain what it does to me, or for me.. I've just never felt anything like it before.

....And another big up to you, welcome!

Boh.

This place is alright by me, so far..

I have the entire weekend ahead of me to produce... my ex-wife is taking our daughter for the weekend (which never happens) and my girlfriend just left town for the weekend to see some friends before spring semester starts.

Its just me and my gear this weekend... not to mention its raining in "sunny" San Diego right now. Perfect motivation to stay inside and make some of that murky murk.

Thanks for the warm welcome everybody. Junglists aren't nearly as welcoming as dubsteppas.. I didn't know what to expect when I came here lol.

Novelty wrote:Boh.

This place is alright by me, so far..

I have the entire weekend ahead of me to produce... my ex-wife is taking our daughter for the weekend (which never happens) and my girlfriend just left town for the weekend to see some friends before spring semester starts.

Its just me and my gear this weekend... not to mention its raining in "sunny" San Diego right now. Perfect motivation to stay inside and make some of that murky murk.

Thanks for the warm welcome everybody. Junglists aren't nearly as welcoming as dubsteppas.. I didn't know what to expect when I came here lol.

By the first 4 posts you have made I already like you more than 90% of this forum.

I'm also having a production weekend! GL and have fun!

Novelty wrote:I don't go to raves often... when I go its because 16 bit or Rusko is close by.. Saw Emalkay and 16 bit last week, but that was the first time in a long time. Raves in southern california are essentially underage, orgiastic overdose parties.. and its not my cup of tea.

I liked jungle before I knew I liked it (because of a sample from Slipknot's song Eyeless). Once I found out what drum and bass was, thats when my story begins.

Ewun was my first exposure to drum n bass back in 2006. It was love at first sight and I got heavily involved with Lifted and Vision (and artists of similar influence) right off the bat. Evol Intent is pretty much local, and its a small scene so if you're in it, you're pretty much in. After getting a taste of the new stuff I became more interested in the roots of Drum n Bass and immersed myself in pure old-school jungle (92-94 is the sweet spot for me). Started quite a collection in fact.

As I became more involved in the music, I started DJ'ing, but after ALL of my equipment was stolen, I decided to go down the production route and have found it to be much more enjoyable.

I go to weekly shows we have here in town. All of them are at small, grimey bars with some 'ok' local dj's.. but I'll take what I can get when I can get it.

Anyways, I just love the bass.. It desensitizes me. Some fucked up shit has gone down in the past 5 years and instead of using drugs I've found bass. I can't explain what it does to me, or for me.. I've just never felt anything like it before.

i feel ya comPLETEly! you're the kinda person we need more of in this world! welcome to DSF

kejk wrote:I'm also having a production weekend! GL and have fun!

That's what weekends are for right? right?

10 years

Big up the weekend production crew

I've got my bag of green, my missus is off on a hen weekend, Budweiser in the fridge, San marcos in the freezer. God I love my life.....

Peace

JFK wrote:Big up the weekend production crew

I've got my bag of green, my missus is off on a hen weekend, Budweiser in the fridge, San marcos in the freezer. God I love my life.....

Peace

Weekend! FUCK YEAH!

kejk wrote: By the first 4 posts you have made I already like you more than 90% of this forum.

I'm also having a production weekend! GL and have fun!

hahaha. i'm flattered. just wait until I get some sound up on here... if you guys want to hear the FIRST thing I ever tried making electronically (2 months ago) you can go here: http://www.myspace.com/kickassbadassthereckoning

its the LAST song on the page (the others are just songs I like)... I made it using Reason & Ableton.. the little girl's voice is my daughter