US conducted a Haiti help drill 1 day before the earthquake

[alien pimp]

PS:

didn't i get the same shit when i said swine flu will be about some dubious mass vaccination?
or when i said obama will be hated by most people before one year?
or...

and this time i'm only saying this is more than a coincidence if it happened

Predicting that Obama would be getting flack after the 1st year of his presidency was a very safe bet, due to a number of reasons. Primarily for the fact that there was so much "hope" and expectation invested in him. secondly, because he is the president of the U.S of motha fuckin A.

agreed, it's not about how smart i was
it's about how much bullshit i got from the people who weren't even able to reach that average level of understanding
sorry if i doubt you, but i vaguely remember you not taking the safe bet back then... i stand corrected if i'm wrong

[collige]

So the facts are:

-The US simulated disaster relief in Haiti one day
-An earthquake happened in Haiti the next day
-There is no way to predict earthquakes with more than mins before

How on earth could this have been anything besides a coincidence?

[alien pimp]

Sometimes, I think about calling someone then they call me! It's happened about 20+ times.

in the world of a conspiracy theorist, theres no such thing as a coinsidence

history is 99.99% plans and 0.01% coincidences

[NilsFG]

I don't get why alien get's so much shit, I don't agree with much of what he has to say but I find it interesting none the less and you can still have a debate with someone (fnar fnar arf arf) with out resorting to ad hominem tactics. It's similar with Parsons, I don't always agree with what the mad bastard has to say but I can't deny that it does provoke some though and I do find it interesting.

Chill Ninjas

True.

However, it's kind of hard discussing with Parson or Alien Pimp because Parson thinks discussion doesn't work and Alien Pimp likes to be very close-minded in a discussion (that or he just doesn't want to hear what the other guy has to say and he just tries to devalue the other person). No offence ment though.

[karmacazee]

sorry i jumped on you without paying attention to what it's been really said, like some of the losers here do on regular basis, i don't want to be one of them, it was a mistake.


Ok then, so you haven't come to a conclusion, and you didn't imply a military connection. Sorry. My bad.

What you did do, however, is make a reference to 9/11 or 7/7, where the military conducted excercises that were exactly the same scenarios as what actually happenned, which is all a bit spooky and dubious in those cases. You said that this has happenned before. You seemed to be comparing it to that. If so, then you're lending yourself to the 9/11 truth school of thought on that one by association, you see. That's why a lot of people on here are jumping on you, I think.


"because i always say what i think is irrelevant, only what i can prove matters. i can't prove shit here so i let people know the info and see the implications."

Now I get it! It was us

So my point about the article is: I don't see anything fishy going on there, dude.

[alien pimp]

I don't get why alien get's so much shit, I don't agree with much of what he has to say but I find it interesting none the less and you can still have a debate with someone (fnar fnar arf arf) with out resorting to ad hominem tactics. It's similar with Parsons, I don't always agree with what the mad bastard has to say but I can't deny that it does provoke some though and I do find it interesting.

Chill Ninjas

True.

However, it's kind of hard discussing with Parson or Alien Pimp because Parson thinks discussion doesn't work and Alien Pimp likes to be very close-minded in a discussion. No offence.

being open-minded to bullshit is rather bad and shows lack of critical thinking

[magma]

or when i said obama will be hated by most people before one year?.

Obama's approval rating is currently 56%. He's not hated by anywhere near "most people". He's not even disapproved of by "most people".

What was that about "unchewed shit"?

[missedthebus]

weird coincidences

exactly. do you really think the US would launch an attack on haiti the day after running operations there? they'd want to disassociate themselves from it as much as possible

this.

I think its terribly sad that sending in troops is currently a necessary precursor to aid, but if they (meaning the US) fear for the safety of their people/charity ppl on the ground - its to be expected that troops will go in first.

As I said previously, it just seems that due to the uncontrolable circumstance such as, previous security situation and infrastructural problems in Haiti the fact that aid cannot get in/is coming in very slowly - is a bad indictment on all those who have pledged to help

[danoldboy]

On Monday, Jean Demay, DISA's technical manager for the agency's Transnational Information Sharing Cooperation project, happened to be at the headquarters of the U.S. Southern Command in Miami preparing for a test of the system in a scenario that involved providing relief to Haiti in the wake of a hurricane. After the earthquake hit on Tuesday, Demay said SOUTHCOM decided to go live with the system.

http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20100 ... f=topstory

Are there any other sources reporting on this or corroborating any of the details in the article?

Just came across this from the department of defense website, it lends quite a bit of weight to the suggestions of the planning being a coincidence or even a small part of an ongoing broader relief strategy being put together by the US. They mounted a relief effort in Haiti in mid 2008 so it stands to reason that the region would be included in their planning.

American Forces Press Service

Since 2005, U.S. Southern Command has led U.S. military support to 14 major relief missions, including assistance to Haiti in September 2008. During that mission, U.S. military forces from USS Kearsarge and other units airlifted 3.3 million pounds of aid to communities that were devastated by a succession of major storms.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=57566

[metalboxproducts]

PS:

didn't i get the same shit when i said swine flu will be about some dubious mass vaccination?
or when i said obama will be hated by most people before one year?
or...

and this time i'm only saying this is more than a coincidence if it happened

Predicting that Obama would be getting flack after the 1st year of his presidency was a very safe bet, due to a number of reasons. Primarily for the fact that there was so much "hope" and expectation invested in him. secondly, because he is the president of the U.S of motha fuckin A.

agreed, it's not about how smart i was
it's about how much bullshit i got from the people who weren't even able to reach that average level of understanding
sorry if i doubt you, but i vaguely remember you not taking the safe bet back then... i stand corrected if i'm wrong

I probably said something along the lines of "On the whole it's a pretty good thing that B,O has made it to the Pres but, he's never gonna be able deliver on the rediculous, over blown expectations of him.

[hackman]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

[alien pimp]

sorry i jumped on you without paying attention to what it's been really said, like some of the losers here do on regular basis, i don't want to be one of them, it was a mistake.


Ok then, so you haven't come to a conclusion, and you didn't imply a military connection. Sorry. My bad.

What you did do, however, is make a reference to 9/11 or 7/7, where the military conducted excercises that were exactly the same scenarios as what actually happenned, which is all a bit spooky and dubious in those cases. You said that this has happenned before. You seemed to be comparing it to that. If so, then you're lending yourself to the 9/11 truth school of thought on that one by association, you see. That's why a lot of people on here are jumping on you, I think.


"because i always say what i think is irrelevant, only what i can prove matters. i can't prove shit here so i let people know the info and see the implications."

Now I get it! It was us

So my point about the article is: I don't see anything fishy going on there, dude.

at least you have balls, respect!
and you got my point
if people care more about imaginary schools of thought and focus on that more than on the thread itself, that says something about them, not me

it all comes down to: do you believe in such huge coincidences, especially considering the history that showed most of these coincidences proved to be a plan?
no one can have now a decisive and undebatable answer, but one thing is true and provable: considering all that's been said, there's deffo bigger chances to be a plan than a coincidence
of course there's still that 0.01% that sometimes happen to beat the 99.99%, but... hmmm...
we'll see

[alien pimp]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

[DRTY]

because i always say what i think is irrelevant, only what i can prove matters. i can't prove shit here so i let people know the info and see the implications.
i always say my person is irrelevant but that's all you care about
but yeah, you can't read after being shagged by magma

of course, you lying is more necessary than me calling it out

same dozen of brainless loudmouthed coward pussies going on and on
and many dozens of other people i can debate with nicely, but they won't be able to handle you like i do so they keep themselves out and the result is only the noise of you foaming your mouth

now drty you're among the people who need to say: "i'm sorry for being a bitch" before we can have a nice convo again

When did you say that?

Why would you always post stuff up like this if you didn't believe or support them? I always debate about the topic as opposed to your take on it, but seeing as you support them, it is obviously personal to you. Therefore you take skepticism as a personal attack and that's when you get nasty.

Just to clarify, so far in this thread alone you've called me; brainless, loudmouthed, cowardly, pussy, mental, bitch, a fucking liar, a no brainer, someone with no balls and a rape victim of magma's.

I don't think I owe you an apology tbh.

[hackman]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

its painfully obvious man!
its been repeated in history so many times, specially in south america, large amount of resources, american companies want it but cant, its for the people, then cia backed coup or something
except oil this time and a man made earthquake used as a pretext to send in 10000 american troops to secure oil which was meant for haitian people, and kill a few thousand to control world population, a huge issue right now for the nwo

[alien pimp]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

its painfully obvious man!
its been repeated in history so many times, specially in south america, large amount of resources, american companies want it but cant, its for the people, then cia backed coup or something
except oil this time and a man made earthquake used as a pretext to send in 10000 american troops to secure oil which was meant for haitian people, and kill a few thousand to control world population, a huge issue right now for the nwo

noooo, it's a coincidence
just think how much money the us helped the haitians, they are certainly good people:

As Haiti begins to receive desperately needed funds to cope with the earthquake, it still owes hundreds of millions of dollars in debt -- a legacy of loans from global financial institutions and donor nations to unelected governments of years past.

If these debts aren't cancelled, Haiti will be sending tens of millions to the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) and IMF even as it struggles to rescue and rebuild.

[collige]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

Haiti was poor as fuck and corrupt to begin with. If this was the goal, it would have been easier just to go in there beforehand, there's much less chance of making a fuss when there's no disaster relief troops there.

[hackman]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

its painfully obvious man!
its been repeated in history so many times, specially in south america, large amount of resources, american companies want it but cant, its for the people, then cia backed coup or something
except oil this time and a man made earthquake used as a pretext to send in 10000 american troops to secure oil which was meant for haitian people, and kill a few thousand to control world population, a huge issue right now for the nwo

noooo, it's a coincidence
just think how much money the us helped the haitians, they are certainly good people:

As Haiti begins to receive desperately needed funds to cope with the earthquake, it still owes hundreds of millions of dollars in debt -- a legacy of loans from global financial institutions and donor nations to unelected governments of years past.

If these debts aren't cancelled, Haiti will be sending tens of millions to the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) and IMF even as it struggles to rescue and rebuild.

exactly, and the earthquake is the perfect way to cripple them so much that they have no choice but to give up the oil as payment for the debts

[hackman]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

Haiti was poor as fuck and corrupt to begin with. If this was the goal, it would have been easier just to go in there beforehand, there's much less chance of making a fuss when there's no disaster relief troops there.

the oil was only discovered about three years ago i think

[alien pimp]

interestingly Haiti is rumoured to have more oil reserves than Venezuela.....


http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... -than.html

if that's true, i need to correct myself: read 0.001%, not 0.01% chances to be a coincidence

Haiti was poor as fuck and corrupt to begin with. If this was the goal, it would have been easier just to go in there beforehand, there's much less chance of making a fuss when there's no disaster relief troops there.

yeah, poor and corrupt people would hand the oil to whoever comes in "beforehand", without negotiations and attempts to make the best out of it

while good people send in thousands of troops and a few cans of beans, keeping a nation enslaved by a debt that gives it no chance to develop