liquid dubstep....THE FUTURE

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:26 pm

Person A: "What stuff are you into?"

Person B: "Liquid dubstep, mate"

Person A: "..."

I reckon we should all go back to the time before dubstep was even called 'dubstep'.

kion · Post by **kion** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:30 pm

http://www.vagabondage.com/genres

kion · Post by **kion** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:32 pm

"Wack Cheesy Beat" is the best one I've come up with so far. Now I just need to find some music to stick it to.

markle · Post by **markle** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:35 pm

New old hard soft is my fav...

kion · Post by **kion** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:51 pm

An essay on Liquid Dubstep

The subject of Liquid Dubstep is a controversial issue. At one stage or another, every man woman or child will be faced with the issue of Liquid Dubstep. While it is becoming a hot topic for debate, it is important to remember that "what goes up must come down". The juxtapositioning of Liquid Dubstep with fundamental economic, social and political strategic conflict draws criticism from the upper echelons of progressive service sector organisations, who form the last great hope for our civilzation. Keeping all of this in mind, in this essay I will examine the major issues.

Social Factors

As Reflected in classical mythology society is complicated. When J H Darcy said 'fevour will spread' [1] she borrowed much from Liquid Dubstep. A child's approach to this so-called 'new sound' raises the question 'why?'

Of paramount importance to any study of Liquid Dubstep within its context, is understanding the ideals of society. It has been said that the one thing in society which could survive a nuclear attack is Liquid Dubstep. This is incorrect, actually cockroaches are the only thing which can survive a nuclear attack.

Economic Factors

Increasingly economic growth and innovation are being attributed to Liquid Dubstep. We will primarily be focusing on the Greek-Roman model, making allowances for recent changes in interest rates.

Annual Sound System Budget

..............................................Liquid Dubstep

The results displayed in the graph are too clear to be ignored. Seemingly the annual sound system budget is in financial terms 'holding hands with Liquid Dubstep.' Supply Side Economic Tax Cuts Tax deductions could turn out to be a risky tactic.

Political Factors

Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Politicians find it difficult to choose between what has become known in politics as - 'The two ways' - 0

One quote comes instantly to mind when examining this topic. I mean of course the words of jazz singer Aaron Woodpecker 'Political idealists must ideally deal, for I daily list my ideals politically.' [2] This clearly illustrates the primary concern of those involved with Liquid Dubstep. It is a well known 'secret' that what prompted many politicians to first strive for power was Liquid Dubstep.
I wait anxiously. What will the next few years bring for this new invention?

Conclusion

To conclude, Liquid Dubstep deserves all of the attention it gets. It replenishes the self, provides financial security and is a joy to behold.

I will leave the last word to the famous Ozzy Morissette: 'Oooh yeah Liquid Dubstep shoo badaby dooo.' [3]

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:33 am

Blackdown wrote:please please people let's not use the words 'liquid' or 'intelligent', after what happened in d&b. it's all dubstep, right?

Or even better just GARAGE, in the same way that new south sound is still hip-hop but doesnt sound like rap in the 80's.GET ME !!

dynamixuk · Post by **dynamixuk** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:37 am

it's all dubstep in my eye's.

Some of ramadanman's stuff is deep (we are, Dynamic Balance vip) but i just class it as dubstep, if im talkin about those tunes to someone i'd say "them are deep" but wouldnt say deep dubstep or IDM dubstep coz thats just gay.

There's a TRG tune called mercury dub that is well on the old school side of liquid, but still i call it dubstep but i'll say "sounds a bit drifty" or "techy" if talkin about distance or wobbly for someone else....tis just dubstep for me

Fuk pigion hole's

....that look's so wrong when u type it...................

................................................................................. it but i stand by it

leave it to some journalist to try to lable some new breed of dubstep they have stumbled across that is and isnt like dubstep but is...IDMSTEP

drum n bass to me is drum n bass, jungle = jungle, house=house be it funky or deep or what ever the fuk

and Dubstep is most deffo just that to me.

northern monkey

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:39 am

^ theyre forum tune.

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:54 am

QUEST wrote:u people are reading too deeply into things its all dubstep i didn't say it was anything else liquid is just a word to describe that side of things its not something ive come up with off the top of my head people in the industry have used that word, and why can't i use the word intelligent, i can make a grime tune in 2 minutes and i ain't lying but dubstep is different more thought is put into into therefore it is more intelligent, people have to stop being scared of change, things will go where they are gonna go anyway so who can stop it? if its meant to be its meant to be

not neccesarily ..some artist execute work fast to a standard that can take other artists months to reach levels no way near.
grime producers beats are no less 'intelligent' than any dubstep tune,simply a different style .

silkie · Post by **silkie** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:04 am

really this is all bullshit really cus dubstep is a subgerne so wots the fuss. no can tell the producers of the music wot to do. if we call it liquid dub wot is anyone gonna say that our niche i make anything, dubstep is in the hands of the producers who is anyone else to tell us any different. u might not agree with quest but whos to say dont call it this or that. noone owns the music.

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:08 am

welcome Silkie!

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:16 am

i'd get bored at a night purely of mellow deep stuff

i'd get bored at a night purely of WOBWOBWOB LFO bangers

VARIETY!

most producers make more than 1 style anyway!

like kromestar for example - makes stuff like kalawanji on the one hand, and stuff like corrupshun dub and the floetry refix on the other

jahtao · Post by **jahtao** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:25 am

Ok, so you've asked for my opinion on 'liquid dub' and i'm-a give it ya.

Without discussing any actual music its hard to be specific but broadly speaking i think its safe to say... i'm totally fucking against it.

First off i will never use the words 'liquid dub'. If anyone catches me using said words please slap me, (no shanking), i will have badly lost my way.

Now, your post could be taken as a call for fresh ideas and a more diverse sound... i didn't. If you want to take a new direction why are dredging up that old liquid nonsense? If you want more diversity in the dance, don't promote compartmentalising the scene (it has the opposite effect - fact - trust blackdown on this one) and while you're at it, stop even thinking like that, for your own sake as much as everyone elses.

You want more 'upfull' vibes in the dance, great. Melodic? Cool, but don't be cheesy! Soulful? Nice, don't be fucking wak tho! Colourful? Ok, but stop being gay! Bruv, get in touch with your femine side or whatever the fuck, its all good... and you know what? I'd be with you 100%, if it wasn't for one thing:

Liquid.

Somehow i just know your idea of a good melody is Fasten Your Seatbelt by Pendulum. And mellow, for you, is any record with the pitch control at zero. Etc. etc. etc. Come on, you just want to make liquid dnb at a dubstep tempo, admit it!! For a crowd of pillheads by the sound of it.

What do i think about you pushing things in that direction? Don't. Just don't.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:39 am

jahtao wrote: Somehow i just know your idea of a good melody is Fasten Your Seatbelt by Pendulum. And mellow, for you, is any record with the pitch control at zero. Etc. etc. etc. Come on, you just want to make liquid dnb at a dubstep tempo, admit it!! For a crowd of pillheads by the sound of it.

What do i think about you pushing things in that direction? Don't. Just don't.

lol u heard quest's tunage?

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:39 am

silkie · Post by **silkie** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:45 am

jahtao wrote: Come on, you just want to make liquid dnb at a dubstep tempo, admit it!! For a crowd of pillheads by the sound of it.

What do i think about you pushing things in that direction? Don't. Just don't.

no matter if it called liquid or wotever just listen to the music. it wont be for everyone but i dont care.
we are antisocial.

jackquinox · Post by **jackquinox** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:14 am

Got to choose me words carefully now but as far as that side of dubstep goes im all for it being explored but then maybe what attracted me to this sound in the first place was that it has such a variety of influences in it so that makes for no dull moments in my opinion, that and the bass anyways

jay · Post by **jay** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:12 am

jahtao wrote:Ok, so you've asked for my opinion on 'liquid dub' and i'm-a give it ya.

Without discussing any actual music its hard to be specific but broadly speaking i think its safe to say... i'm totally fucking against it.

First off i will never use the words 'liquid dub'. If anyone catches me using said words please slap me, (no shanking), i will have badly lost my way.

Now, your post could be taken as a call for fresh ideas and a more diverse sound... i didn't. If you want to take a new direction why are dredging up that old liquid nonsense? If you want more diversity in the dance, don't promote compartmentalising the scene (it has the opposite effect - fact - trust blackdown on this one) and while you're at it, stop even thinking like that, for your own sake as much as everyone elses.

You want more 'upfull' vibes in the dance, great. Melodic? Cool, but don't be cheesy! Soulful? Nice, don't be fucking wak tho! Colourful? Ok, but stop being gay! Bruv, get in touch with your femine side or whatever the fuck, its all good... and you know what? I'd be with you 100%, if it wasn't for one thing:

Liquid.

Somehow i just know your idea of a good melody is Fasten Your Seatbelt by Pendulum. And mellow, for you, is any record with the pitch control at zero. Etc. etc. etc. Come on, you just want to make liquid dnb at a dubstep tempo, admit it!! For a crowd of pillheads by the sound of it.

What do i think about you pushing things in that direction? Don't. Just don't.

shut up. how could you say that shit after he produced 'hardfood'. do you even know what track im talking about?

www.myspace.com/darkstar001

keith p · Post by **keith p** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:14 am

SAYING FUCKING NO TO DUBSTEP SUB GENRES.

Just Dubstep is fine, I'm open enough to listen to different sounds w/o having to pigeon hole it.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:30 am

SILKIE wrote:really this is all bullshit really cus dubstep is a subgerne so wots the fuss. no can tell the producers of the music wot to do. if we call it liquid dub wot is anyone gonna say that our niche i make anything, dubstep is in the hands of the producers who is anyone else to tell us any different. u might not agree with quest but whos to say dont call it this or that. noone owns the music.

SILKIE wrote: no matter if it called liquid or wotever just listen to the music. it wont be for everyone but i dont care.
we are antisocial.

on both this forum and dubplate.net, the genre issue was battered to pieces from 2003-2005. who is dubstep?, who isn't dubstep? there were people pushing several agenda's. some separitist. some conformist. some positive, some ridiculous, and some very negative. i'd say there's a considerable percentage of people on the forum that are tired of the whole name issue, and just want to get on with the music. if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

liquid dubstep....THE FUTURE

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