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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by wirez » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:08 pm

Ayatollah wrote:"I did it X way so that's how it must be done! Someone made a learning tool I didn't have access to when I first started, oh my god please NO!"

Seriously, you guys talk like a bunch of granddads :roll:
You must be young and inexperienced in life to not trust your elders wise words. :twisted:
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by faultier » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:14 pm

Ayatollah wrote: Someone made a learning tool
tbh, its more marketed as a 'do professional sounding music instantly without any effort" tool... and thats after they changed their layout and part of their marketing, apparently cause someone noticed the massive amount of visits coming from here and checked what was going on...


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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Sharmaji » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:31 pm

tbh it's all about the end result, no the process. Whether or not Rusko sits in Real World studios recording a 36-piece gamelan w/ schoeps mics thru a fairchild or whether he works on an old copy of acid on a CRT monitor (man i hope he's upgraded), what matters is the quality of tunes-- not how they're made. If this helps push someone who's really creative, but flustered by the process, into creating music-- excellent. Will we get stuck with a deluge of dumbass music from mouth-breathers? Almost certainly.

but we already have that, so i don't see this as being much of a change negatively, but (hopefully) a good tick up for others.

Just think of how much more popular mt. Eden could be if they/he had a template to start from :7:
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Ayatollah » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:26 pm

Sharmaji wrote:If this helps push someone who's really creative, but flustered by the process, into creating music-- excellent. Will we get stuck with a deluge of dumbass music from mouth-breathers? Almost certainly.

but we already have that

This exactly. As long as it helps someone along the way, great.
I don't understand the condescending attitude a lot of people seem to have on these forums. Imagine if guitarists would go apeshit over Guitar Pro software, or tell the noobs WHY DONT YOU DO YOUR OWN THING when they ask how to play Stairway to Heaven.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by cixxxj » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:23 pm

I'm not against learning from other things, this is just bad as it gets. All the words they use to promote their product, its WRONG! Not telling they should not be allowed to sell such things, but beatelite, here's some pwnage for you

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Depone » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:18 am

cixxxj wrote:I'm not against learning from other things, this is just bad as it gets. All the words they use to promote their product, its WRONG! Not telling they should not be allowed to sell such things, but beatelite, here's some pwnage for you

Why are you being so stubbornly elitist about this?. And yeah posting up that video and saying "here's some pwanage for you" really shows your mental attitude and age. If people can use this for gain in their skills... then why not?

"this is just bad as it gets" - Really? you think this is worse than all the sh!t you find on youtube???

Its another tool in the belt. Use what you will, I know a lot of people will benefit from this and to be honest it sounds like you need one of these templates yourself ;) (thats a joke, not a personal jibe :wink: )

Or is it ... :o
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Bassmagnet » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:40 am

We could look at this in a good way and know that all these little kids that are going to buy this shit wont be bringing anything new to the table with shitty templates...

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Depone » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:12 pm

Bassmagnet wrote:We could look at this in a good way and know that all these little kids that are going to buy this shit wont be bringing anything new to the table with shitty templates...
the cats out of the bag...
I have been commissioned to make a dubstep template.

Preview it here -
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All made with stock logic plugins/instruments and custom drum hits from my own personal bank.
Just so that you know... Its not a shitty template, its a full song with 30+tracks of midi and audio.
If you like the sound of my music then have a peep at how I made it. This is 100% custom and how i normally write tracks.
I have forthcoming vinyl releases and some hot forthcoming digi releases including a downlink remix and im also soon to remix fused forces.

Just so you lot know, I didn't just throw a track together, I really worked hard and got feedback from some big names to complete the overall sound.

Its all finished and It should be on the site soon. I really want to hear your honest feedback.

I know this may shock most of you, but hey, I believe in good causes :wink:

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by tripwire22 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:18 pm

big up on that downlink bit

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by wirez » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:52 pm

My opinion, if people as awesome and dedicated as Depone are willing to put time into this; then it's a fucking good thing through and through! I've been to his house and he showed me the template and he isn't fucking about... I think the majority of you have something in there you could learn from it.
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Bazzle09 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:25 pm

Depone wrote: the cats out of the bag...
I have been commissioned to make a dubstep template.
Nice track, true to your style... So, could i download this Logic "song" that you made, with all midi and audio, change round a few bits and call it my own? Or is it just the "template" with tracks setting and FX ect.?

Just curious as im one of those that learnt from nothing and i feel i have my own sound, which is important to me.
Not to say that people are gonna be ending up all sounding the same, but its pretty inevitable if people get whole songs to fuck with.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Depone » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:30 pm

Bazzle09 wrote:
Depone wrote: the cats out of the bag...
I have been commissioned to make a dubstep template.
Nice track, true to your style... So, could i download this Logic "song" that you made, with all midi and audio, change round a few bits and call it my own? Or is it just the "template" with tracks setting and FX ect.?

Just curious as im one of those that learnt from nothing and i feel i have my own sound, which is important to me.
Not to say that people are gonna be ending up all sounding the same, but its pretty inevitable if people get whole songs to fuck with.
Yeah everything is customisable. Most of it is midi, so re arranging parts isn't going to painful, except I do have some effects and things like risers and random bleeps as audio as well as one of my own made hat loops in audio.
But yeah its mostly around 80% midi. And I have written notes on whats going on whare etc with multi's and routing. Also colour coded mixer and midi/audio regions to clear some bits up.

Yeah you can take anything from it, fully tweakable! Save your own variations of synths, fx chains etc... all that jazz.
Even includes my custom 808 kick sub.

Any questions im happy to answer.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Bazzle09 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:38 pm

Depone wrote:Any questions im happy to answer.

Are you not worried about lots of tracks coming about sounding very similar to this and on top of that, people knowing (and prob using) your own techniques, shortcuts and sounds "my own made hat loops" & "my custom 808 kick sub" ?

:o

I couldn't do that man.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Depone » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:45 pm

Screens of the project-
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Depone » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:48 pm

Bazzle09 wrote:
Depone wrote:Any questions im happy to answer.

Are you not worried about lots of tracks coming about sounding very similar to this and on top of that, people knowing (and prob using) your own techniques, shortcuts and sounds "my own made hat loops" & "my custom 808 kick sub" ?

:o

I couldn't do that man.
Not at all...

Spread the wealth!!!
I dont get down with producers being secretive and stuff. I have plenty more tricks up this sleeve.
Im confident in my own ability to not feel threatened by this.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Subside » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:58 pm

Depone wrote: Im confident in my own ability to not feel threatened by this.
This is key right here.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Assassin » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:19 pm

Off topic but I've just checked your soundcloud depone.

Some sick tunes and I really hope you finish that portishead remix.

There's nothing but great music comin from the production forum.

I'm embarrassed Im not as good haha.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Disco Nutter » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:58 pm

Yep, life is about sharing knowledge.

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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:07 pm

Depone wrote:I dont get down with producers being secretive and stuff. I have plenty more tricks up this sleeve.
Im confident in my own ability to not feel threatened by this.
Quote of the month mate, big up.
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Re: Oh my god, please NO!

Post by gnome » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:09 pm

You getting well paid Deopne :lol: Like I said I'm sure people will learn a lot from it. You kept things neat and tidy by the looks of things.

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