lazer bass?

[nowaysj]

Okay, getting close, getting sleepy:


This is a single cycle from a patch that I'm working up. Getting there. I'm using a retro virtual analog synth that just intrinsically sounds good. Will post up details when totally sorted.

For reference, here's slug's waveform:

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[nowaysj]

Closer. Must go to sleep.

[HALP]

this is sick, would love to hear the end result and techniques used

[Basic A]

@Noways...

Your obviously going at this pretty hard man, respect on it...

I kinda wanted to throw it out there though...

The noise randomness to the original form your trying to replicate... the fine imperfection, Ive only seen that come out of 2 things, hardware, or greasetube ... might help you get closer...

Also... modulation of some sort... why I figure slugs has that fine offset between two waves there... almost looks flanged but idk...

[SesG]

Just have to say that that anlysis is amazing, didn't even realise doing it that way would work but now its just kinda obvious lol.

Out of interest how have you created the versions each time?

Edison is a godsend btw

[tripwire22]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/szmrc0

this is what i got?

[HALP]

The noise randomness to the original form your trying to replicate... the fine imperfection, Ive only seen that come out of 2 things, hardware, or greasetube ... might help you get closer...

We have already established thats its all vst's
and greasetube i dont know what that is really

[nowaysj]

and greasetube i dont know what that is really

Best be looking into grease tube. On the freeware spectrum, the needle is pegged at awesome.

[HALP]

read its a compressor/saturator, and cant find a download
not too interested in that kinda stuff anyway, i have all i need in ableton

[Basic A]

read its a compressor/saturator, and cant find a download
not too interested in that kinda stuff anyway, i have all i need in ableton

It models a piece of shit vacuum tobe, haha, sounds the tits...

ask deadly...

where I got my link...

[jsills]

HAHA thats what i was wondering. your getting real close tho, interested to hear your process.

[relik]

you can get old moogs for fairly cheap if you just want a couple beefy osc.

mg-1, rogue, liberation .... check em

i got a mint mg-1 for free off some dude. nice little synth. it's a radioshack synth licensed by and built by moog. sick deep bass. i have yet to sample and incorporate into some tracks.

[HALP]

mweslee played one at lowriders a couple of weeks ago, sick sound, i'd like one

[collective]

mweslee played one at lowriders a couple of weeks ago, sick sound, i'd like one

they are nice, i like mine more than my little phatty

you can get old moogs for fairly cheap if you just want a couple beefy osc.

mg-1, rogue, liberation .... check em

i got a mint mg-1 for free off some dude. nice little synth. it's a radioshack synth licensed by and built by moog. sick deep bass. i have yet to sample and incorporate into some tracks.

You made out like a bandit, i'd cherish it. I love mine just got a little bit ago, and been on it ever since, but i love the sound of electricity!

[killahbeez]

yee

[nowaysj]

i have yet to sample and incorporate into some tracks.

SIN. I think that is a sign that you should donate it to the nowaysj charity for analog deprived producers.

[nowaysj]

Funny you should ask, as a result of both of these threads, I did just that. And yes dood, it's not that complex. Save a single cycle, load it into 3xosc, and now you have the synth. You can check the output of the synth, the exact same waveform. A few things, audio apps like audacity will fuck up a bit when looping a very short selection. If you like that sound, just sample that. If you work with fruity, you should be doing this in edison, their wave editor. If you are unfamiliar, learn it. Audacity is a toaster to edison's thermonuclear detonation. In this example, you can just select a single cycle and drag it into 3xosc, don't have to save the sample or anything. If you are a newb, and something doesn't work, it's not the something's fault, it's your fault, look at the situation and correct your mistake. When looping a single cycle from a sound that you like, you have to remember, you're taking a single cycle; synths and other sound sources evolve over time, even if it is short amounts of time. That evolution of sound will not be captured in a single cycle. I captured that slug cycle, and 3xosc sounds like the slug hit, but it is static, it doesn't have all that natural sweepy goodness about it.

And check that lazer bass thread in 2 minutes, am getting pretty close synthesizing slug's sound.

I look forward to hearing the 3x0sc reproduction. But for the record... are you making this "sound"/waveform you've been showing us in this other thread by :
1) sampling slugabeds waveform, 2) putting it in 3x0sc, and editing it from there?
..I'm sure you're working hard at it - but as I'm sure you'll admit - your waveform looks alot less (dynamic) than slugabeds. This is what I feel I may be experiencing - with the wav played through a sampler the sound is phat/dirty... with the same wav played through 3x0sc - it sounds muffled - barely the same (I will look into the waveforms to see how similar/dissimilar they are when I have time).
Oh - and if you're not using the process above (1,2,3) and are using another synth etc. - your process is irrelevant to this 3x0sc discussion.

I guess the simplest, most straight forward question I can ask you is - is the RESULT different, for you, when you place the slugabed wave in a SAMPLER as compared to the 3x0sc? Or is it IDENTICAL? If it is IDENTICAL, then you're right - its my fault, I must be doing something wrong.

as for all the talk about synths "evolving" over time.... do u think my looped sample in audacity is evolving over time? It's not. I'm just looking to as closely replicate that looped sound, in synth form, as possible.

The above samples were created with a vst synth, as I mentioned above.

Re dynamic's - not the appropriate term, dynamics are the variations between quiet and loud. But I know what you're getting at. What I've been showing is pure synthesis, without any post processing on it, which is what Basic is referring to.

Re the 3xosc - who knows what you are doing, you have to remember that there are two other oscillators there, as well as filters, and envelopes, perhaps you are filtering the waveform, messing with the stereo phase offset... When I put a wave into 3xOsc, it sounds like the waveform. There is the possibility that your interpolation settings are affecting the way 3xOsc transposes samples and renders audio in live mode. I don't know about that. I'm at 128 sync. But you will get the same result by putting the same cycle in a sampler 3xOsc if the cycle is unprocessed in any other way. For the last time, when audio editors loops small samples they all produce slighty different sounds because of the way they handle the jump from one point to the next.

[+verb]

just a stab in the dark... could the "WTF IS THAT" portion of the waveform be due to extreme over-compression?... just sayin.

[relik]

SIN. I think that is a sign that you should donate it to the nowaysj charity for analog deprived producers.

Haha...I jam out in it from time to time. Fun for wobbling. I was at a house party talking to dude about djing/producing and he was like "I got this synth, but I can only make sirens with it". I was thinking he had a nice analog synth with a couple oscillators and I was right. He took it out of a van, brought it in and let me jam on it. I didn't even want to take it but dude kept insisting. When I was leaving the party, he ran out to my car with it and told me I had to take it. I told him he could probably get a couple hundred for it easily, but he said he didn't care as long as I never sold it. He had the manuals for it and everything. Looked like it was rarely used. Everything on it works, no missing knobs or anything. Even opened it up to check the common "melted foam" problems they have, and it was clean. He gave me a Yamaha FB-01 sound module too, but I don't know if I will ever have a use for that. Nothing beats free gear.

[nowaysj]

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