dare: there are no such things as paradoxes...

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Paradoxes are always taken lighly, but give a good oppurtunity to removing borders in thought, and to consider how the world truely does revolve around "me" because of experience and interpretation (another paradox). Here's a few loose thoughts, may not be what you're after though

Deafened through silence - based on frequencies that deliver energy to the hearing system without being interpretated into the 'minds ear'

Pinocchio says 'My nose will not grow' and time ends

Rich and poor dependant on imaginary numbers

Digital arts and photography (complex, but the mechanics may be used to seperate)

Classic ones such as the 50% chance of two people from a group of 25 sharing the same birthday

The paradox of an executioner being immune to murder charges

'Drugs are bad'

The concept that life on other planets must revolve around water and carbon

The paradox of 'social networking' that connects people through forcing isolation to a computer

'Tomorrow never comes'

'Love thy nieghbour'

'Jesus saves'

[kay]

I was never claiming it to be a paradox - just explaining it. It's confused because of when people say that a proton is both a wave and a particle at the same time, which seem to be opposed, but the fact is that they're neither one or the other - as you've said it's just a state of possibilities. Just simplifying what you just said.

Sorry, misunderstood

What you say about the planck length and zeno's paradox is extremely interesting. However, I think that planck length is only the smallest length we know to exist with the knowledge we have, looking at gravity and light and all that jazzy stuff. I think if Zeno's paradox is to stay in a platonic space, since it never would be practically existent at all, the length could still be cut smaller and smaller an infinite amount of times. The second you take it into the practical world it's limited by the smallest space we know to exist right now (which I think will keep shifting).

Yeah, Zeno's paradox stands when considered in platonic space. That's why context is so important to paradoxes. Viewed from the correct context, a paradox should be resolvable.

And one dealing with infinite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_ ... rand_Hotel

Basically, a hotel with infinite rooms, and infinite guests. Another one arrives; can he be accommodated. No, because it's full, but yes, because it's infinite. Then it gets a bit crazy talking about rooms sliding all over the place and chunks being taken out and so on.

and more on infinite: http://www.suitcaseofdreams.net/Infinity_Paradox.htm, explaining the previous thing.

The Infinite Hotel really is one of my favourite concepts. Check out The Infinite Book by John D Barrow if you're interested in stuff like this. Mind you, I'd say only the first half of the book is any good. It descends in quality towards the back.

With respect to the "nothing exists until it's observed" part, it's worth noting that observation does not imply you have to look at it. If an object has a mass, then by gravitational field theory it's affecting everything else in the universe (with mass) gravitationally, therefore its effects are being observed, so it must exist in a definite state.

Obviously this breaks down for a photon etc... but it's a point worth making.

Fully agree with that. Observation was not the right word to use.

[64hz]

'Tomorrow never comes'

it never does

[alien pimp]

Paradoxes are always taken lighly, but give a good oppurtunity to removing borders in thought, and to consider how the world truely does revolve around "me" because of experience and interpretation (another paradox). Here's a few loose thoughts, may not be what you're after though

Deafened through silence - based on frequencies that deliver energy to the hearing system without being interpretated into the 'minds ear'

Pinocchio says 'My nose will not grow' and time ends

Rich and poor dependant on imaginary numbers

Digital arts and photography (complex, but the mechanics may be used to seperate)

Classic ones such as the 50% chance of two people from a group of 25 sharing the same birthday

The paradox of an executioner being immune to murder charges

'Drugs are bad'

The concept that life on other planets must revolve around water and carbon

The paradox of 'social networking' that connects people through forcing isolation to a computer

'Tomorrow never comes'

'Love thy nieghbour'

'Jesus saves'

very few of these are actually paradoxes

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Yeah man they're not paradoxes as they are, they were invites for you to think about how they can become paradoxes

[alien pimp]

Yeah man they're not paradoxes as they are, they were invites for you to think about how they can become paradoxes

i thought, they can't

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Yeah man they're not paradoxes as they are, they were invites for you to think about how they can become paradoxes

i thought, they can't

"There's no such thing as paradoxes" - aspects that could logically induce a paradox, don't logically induce a paradox, more focus on "An assertion that is essentially self-contradictory, though based on a valid deduction from acceptable premises and A statement contrary to received opinion" than the more straightforward concept of them. Things to some people only become 'a paradox' when given specific phrasing

[alien pimp]

no man, i just don't lose myself in words, rethorics and semantics, i just instantly picture the practical situation and spot the flaws
the paradoxes are like jokes: they work only in a predetermined context that's faulty but you have to accept it for it to work. if you transpose most jokes in real life situations the result is not funny and/or believable.
in real life there are no such things as self contradictory situations, just a lot of faulty logic

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

haha yeah exactly, that very concept stops an executioner logically starting an endless chains of executions

[alien pimp]

ok, everyone, anybody else wants a try, or this is it?
sounds like an unprecedented agreement over an issue on snh. i'd be happy and worried to find out it is so

[hifi]

it's absolutely true that there aren't any absolute truths
cameupon this searching for "renaissance man, polymath"

[kidshuffle]

i almost thought alien pimp was posting again, phew