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therapist wrote:

yamaz wrote:What do you mean, 'what'?

So any given song or drum loop is going to be at some specific tempo or bpm. Wtf is so confusing? The drums in dubstep are typically half time 140bpm or 70!

Saying '70 bpm is the real tempo of your drums' just isn't right, that's all.

That was my point. You can look at it as 70, idc, but saying 70 is REAL is saying it's more right than 140. And that's just not the case.

Jezus wtf am i missing here? If I take a typical rock beat pattern, kick hihat, snare, hihat, kick...etc. and play that at 140bpm tempo its going to sound a lot different than if i play it at 120, 100 or yes, 70bpm....

The drums I hear in most dubstep tracks sound 70 and that's what my metronome reads when i tap tempo along with it. Yes i can tap twice as fast or slow but normally you count what, quarter notes? Kick 1, hi hat, snare 2, hi hat, etc...

Why would sheet music read a bpm tempo if its so arbitrary that you could play fur elise twice as fast, like a crackhead on speed?

This thread is like some bad dreams that I have. They're completely about nothing, but go on and on.

nowaysj wrote:This thread is like some bad dreams that I have. They're completely about nothing, but go on and on.

couldnt describe it better

[intercepted radio message] I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.

why don't you make a 4 page thread about it?

Well I've always done 140 because as someone has said more places to put percs or whatever. 70 would be too limiting, 240 or something would just blow my mind.

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Crosby wrote:

deadly habit wrote:do you dj or just use like ableton in some weird way?

I think this is the answer to this thread

amen.

p.s, bpm = beats per minute, beats, are beats, they are not whatever you'd like them to be unless you live in daw land and feel you are arbitrarily greater than math. dubstep, record at 140, snare on 6th(but we all call it the 3rd), you'll find -technically- in music theory, you'd be at 70, and -technically- the snare would actually be on the 3rd but then how do you explain all those extra notes and that wobbly shit? 140.

its dubstep. i think if you recorded at lesser, you'd rob yourself of potential weird percussion combos. the -real- beat is 70, but we all know. 140

nowaysj wrote:

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that is a good one

yamaz wrote:Jezus wtf am i missing here? If I take a typical rock beat pattern, kick hihat, snare, hihat, kick...etc. and play that at 140bpm tempo its going to sound a lot different than if i play it at 120, 100 or yes, 70bpm....

The drums I hear in most dubstep tracks sound 70 and that's what my metronome reads when i tap tempo along with it. Yes i can tap twice as fast or slow but normally you count what, quarter notes? Kick 1, hi hat, snare 2, hi hat, etc...

Why would sheet music read a bpm tempo if its so arbitrary that you could play fur elise twice as fast, like a crackhead on speed?

All this means is a lot of stuff you listen to has really shit drums that relentlessly follow the kick, hat, snare, hat pattern. (Hopefully) There's a whole load of other stuff which are (implied) beats going on. It's called halftime because it seems like half the tempo, rather than having a drop in bpm half way through a track. Do you hear all the hats and other percussion drop in tempo as well in all these tunes?

JigSaw wrote:

Crosby wrote:

deadly habit wrote:do you dj or just use like ableton in some weird way?

I think this is the answer to this thread

amen.

p.s, bpm = beats per minute, beats, are beats, they are not whatever you'd like them to be unless you live in daw land and feel you are arbitrarily greater than math. dubstep, record at 140, snare on 6th(but we all call it the 3rd), you'll find -technically- in music theory, you'd be at 70, and -technically- the snare would actually be on the 3rd but then how do you explain all those extra notes and that wobbly shit? 140.

its dubstep. i think if you recorded at lesser, you'd rob yourself of potential weird percussion combos. the -real- beat is 70, but we all know. 140

you dont have to rob yourself of anything. Just use smaller note intervals. Dubstep is fundamentally 140 at halftime, which in essence is 70bpm.

surely this post is pointless?

As far as im aware when it comes to dubstep its more about the arrangement than the track "bpm". saw a breath dubstep remix at 104.8bpm, according to deckadance.
the bpm is pretty irrelevant as you can but as many beats as you want into and arrangement no? you can decide the speed at which the track is played back but the arrangement on the sequencer decides how fast or slow your track sounds. Hold on remix by subfocus, listening to it there is some DNB paced snares and transition beats in there but the track is most definately dubstep, beats are just arranged in such a way as to appear the track has picked up in pace, but the playback speed is exactly the same.

i.e. 70bpm with 8 kicks in 1 bar sounds like 140bpm with 4 kicks per bar.

when it comes to mixing, sync systems on virtual mixing software get fooled by dubstep arrangement so its all on the ear again boyos!

!peace!

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