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Thich Nhat Hanh's a cool guy. Were you at the trafalga square thing last year Zena?

Also, a shortened version of that quote ,

"A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving." - Lao Tzu

"Quotation is a servicable substitute for wit"

'They tell us that suicide is the greatest piece of cowardice... that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person.' Shopenhauer

'The doctor sees all the weakness of mankind; the lawyer all the wickedness, the theologian all the stupidity.' Schopenhauer

'Politeness is to human nature what warmth is to wax.' Schopenhauer

'There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so' Shakespeare

The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless. - Alan Moore

"What happened?"

"They caught a train"

'YOLO_MC_SWAG #420' incnic

wub wrote:The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless. - Alan Moore

Is that quote the absolute truth though, or is that a quote a means to find comfort within your own world view?

And to believe no body is in control (or at least trying to gain control) is to hand away your own control.

Never under estimate the effect that the grass root has on the playing field!

"It's only words and words are all I have to take your heart away." - The Bee Gees

magma wrote:"It's only words and words are all I have to take your heart away." - The Bee Gees

Kano disagrees

d-T-r wrote:

wub wrote:The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless. - Alan Moore

Is that quote the absolute truth though, or is that a quote a means to find comfort within your own world view?

And to believe no body is in control (or at least trying to gain control) is to hand away your own control.

Never under estimate the effect that the grass root has on the playing field!

You can't deny surely Wub the Bankers run everything due to having all the money?

and what about the family trees of politicians being traced back to one common ancestor?

thats two very conservative examples that point to it not being chaos at all

MMMBop - Hansen

Pistonsbeneath wrote:

d-T-r wrote:

wub wrote:The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless. - Alan Moore

Is that quote the absolute truth though, or is that a quote a means to find comfort within your own world view?

And to believe no body is in control (or at least trying to gain control) is to hand away your own control.

Never under estimate the effect that the grass root has on the playing field!

You can't deny surely Wub the Bankers run everything due to having all the money?

and what about the family trees of politicians being traced back to one common ancestor?

thats two very conservative examples that point to it not being chaos at all

yeah but they don't control everything. I think the quote, and i may be wrong, is referring to how it is more comforting to believe that there is some massive organisation planning and carrying out terrorist attacks rather than just some random person like you or me using readibly available resources to kill alot of people. This is a somewhat related article about the psychology of conspiracy theories which is quite interesting. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... y-theories

d-T-r wrote:And to believe no body is in control (or at least trying to gain control) is to hand away your own control.

I'd disagree on this.

The idea of chaos gives me much more reassurance. Whilst I (or anyone else) may not be in control of the world, I am in total control of myself within it.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:You can't deny surely Wub the Bankers run everything due to having all the money?

There is enough of an open-ended aspect in some of these 'theories' to allow any idea to find some weight or explanation somewhere. People look for what is comforting to them. If people want there to be a conspiracy then they'll find the examples to prove their cause. I'm not dismissing the beliefs of others entirely, however, but for me it's not something I think I can subscribe to.

This brings me nicely to another quote (albeit not sure I'd call this one 'cool' in the terms of this thread);

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

Pistonsbeneath wrote:and what about the family trees of politicians being traced back to one common ancestor?

There is no accounting for nepotism/breeding.

The weak shall perish!

"Nothing is exactly as it seems, nor is it otherwise." ~Alan Watts

"What appear to be faults in others may actually be reflections of our own emotional afflictions". ~ Geshe Dhargyey

"Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also." ~ Marcus Aurelius

"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing." ~ Shakespeare

"I wonder if heaven got a ghetto?" ~ Tupac Shakur

"If it bleeds we can kill it." ~ Dutch

wub wrote:

d-T-r wrote:And to believe no body is in control (or at least trying to gain control) is to hand away your own control.

I'd disagree on this.

The idea of chaos gives me much more reassurance. Whilst I (or anyone else) may not be in control of the world, I am in total control of myself within it.

Key word being reassurance.Fair enough though-what is the world but 8 billion 'myselfs" controlling themselves and having their perception of self control influenced by internal & external factors and also other 'myself's".

Pistonsbeneath wrote:You can't deny surely Wub the Bankers run everything due to having all the money?

wub wrote: There is enough of an open-ended aspect in some of these 'theories' to allow any idea to find some weight or explanation somewhere. People look for what is comforting to them. If people want there to be a conspiracy then they'll find the examples to prove their cause. I'm not dismissing the beliefs of others entirely, however, but for me it's not something I think I can subscribe to.

As far as all the conspiracy shit go's anyway, the irony is that the biggest injustices and things that need addressing are right in front of our eyes and need no repackaging under the 'conspiracy' moniker. Too many people look for the details of hidden conspiracies and in turn ignore the world being pulled from under our feet from a perspective free from the need of any additional conspiracy theories.

Water being the last thing a fish perceives is a good example in this context. With us being the fish and society being the water. We perceive it to the extent of navigating thru it and participating , but we We have no other version of society to compare our own with, so we assume this must be as 'good as it can get" or that this is all there is.

"The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

particle-jim wrote:

magma wrote:"It's only words and words are all I have to take your heart away." - The Bee Gees

Kano disagrees

Kano wins.

You couldnt do that one on snes

I could never do any of them anyway - was always some insane combination of buttons to remember. When "Finish him" came up I always ended up giving them a jab or kick to the shins or something equally disappointing

Laszlo wrote:I could never do any of them anyway - was always some insane combination of buttons to remember. When "Finish him" came up I always ended up giving them a jab or kick to the shins or something equally disappointing

Block + Up + Up is about the only one I can still remember, I think...



It was all about the crouching uppercut if you couldn't remember a proper finisher.