but still dmt doesn't get you straight to anything. there's a wide variety of experiences you get directly to depending on the amount
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:14 pm
by hackman
ok i guess i meant it is much easier to go straight to 5 on dmt, not that i've taken it
rather than taking loads of tabs of acid
you can just do a single hit, and bosh
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:16 pm
by parson
yeah if its a good hit its pretty easy to do that. a lot of people take pussy little hits and feel the effects real quick and then swear they've had enough.
BEYOND EVEN CONCEIVING OF A PLACE
BEYOND WHICH YOU CAN GO BEYOND
WHO'S ADVENTUROUS ENOUGH TO WANT TO GO
ON THAT JOURNEY?
DO YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU GO ON THAT JOURNEY
IN ORDER TO GET TO THE DESTINATION
YOU
CAN NEVER GET TO THE DESTINATION?
IN THE PROCESS
YOU
MUST DIE
MUST DIE
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:34 pm
by hackman
shit, does steely dan know about that?
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:38 pm
by parson
of course, it's not a secret
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:40 pm
by hackman
what does that word even mean
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:57 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
Never heard of that numbering system. From reading that it seems I've experienced level 4 or 5. I was sucked into a table, unable to do anything for what seemed like forever. Couldn't see or hear or anything. Just floating inside the table.
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:08 pm
by nicenice
I read a different numbering system, from that one I think we experienced 4 possibly verging no 5. The sense of rebirth at first was overwhelming.
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:15 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
nicenice wrote:I read a different numbering system, from that one I think we experienced 4 possibly verging no 5. The sense of rebirth at first was overwhelming.
From what you said earlier it sounds like a 3 on the scale hackman posted too.
nicenice wrote:Acid in public was interesting. Sometimes it could be really unsettling, especially when people you don't like the look of walk past or look at you. But seeing Piccidilly Circus lit up at night is a massive trip. All the lights and the buildings start shifting and taking weird patterns. I've never seen central London like that. Although there can be problems, especially when you look at one of the back rooms of the Ritz and decide you want to go in there. Then realise you'll probably get arrested if you try too. Its hard to tell where you can and can't go.
If you can see people, buildings etc I doubt you were near level 5.
Edit: I come across as a tnuc here. Telling people what there trip was and wasn't. Sorry.
Lying down. Difficult to interact with other people and 'consensus reality' in general. You should really be somewhere safe.
Very strong hallucinations such as objects morphing into other objects. Tracers, lingering after-images, and visual echoes.
Intense depersonalization. Category enscramblement. The barriers between you and the universe begin to break down. Connection with everything around you. Experiencing contradictory feelings simultaneously. Some loss of reality. Time meaningless. Senses blend into one. Sensations of being born. Multiple splitting of the ego. Powerful awareness of mental processes and senses. Lengthy trances often featuring highly symbolic, often mythical visions when eyes are closed. Powerful, and sometimes brutal psycho-physical reactions described by users as reliving their own birth. Direct experience of group or collective consciousness, ancestral memories, recall of past-lives, and other mystical experiences. Ecstasy.
Music extremely powerful, perhaps overwhelming. Emotionally sensitivity increased (often massively). Crying or laughing, or both simultaneously.
Tremors, twitches, twisting movements, sweating, chills, hot flushes - all common. You're essentially out of it.
This pretty much sums it up.
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:22 pm
by hackman
Motorway to Roswell wrote:Never heard of that numbering system. From reading that it seems I've experienced level 4 or 5. I was sucked into a table, unable to do anything for what seemed like forever. Couldn't see or hear or anything. Just floating inside the table.
haha that sounds bizarre
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:28 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
hackman wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:Never heard of that numbering system. From reading that it seems I've experienced level 4 or 5. I was sucked into a table, unable to do anything for what seemed like forever. Couldn't see or hear or anything. Just floating inside the table.
haha that sounds bizarre
Yeah. It was fantastic.
It was in the middle of a big 1920s themed party in a pub. I sat down at a table, put my hands on it and they just went through it and the room disappeared. I was just floating in a red/brown table coloured nothing then all the scratches on the table started arching and thrashing around me.
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:29 pm
by hackman
awesome
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:32 pm
by hackman
Motorway to Roswell wrote:
nicenice wrote:I read a different numbering system, from that one I think we experienced 4 possibly verging no 5. The sense of rebirth at first was overwhelming.
From what you said earlier it sounds like a 3 on the scale hackman posted too.
nicenice wrote:Acid in public was interesting. Sometimes it could be really unsettling, especially when people you don't like the look of walk past or look at you. But seeing Piccidilly Circus lit up at night is a massive trip. All the lights and the buildings start shifting and taking weird patterns. I've never seen central London like that. Although there can be problems, especially when you look at one of the back rooms of the Ritz and decide you want to go in there. Then realise you'll probably get arrested if you try too. Its hard to tell where you can and can't go.
If you can see people, buildings etc I doubt you were near level 5.
Edit: I come across as a tnuc here. Telling people what there trip was and wasn't. Sorry.
yeah if you can see people and buildings, it definitely wasn't a level 5
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:39 pm
by nicenice
Its why I say verging.
I can't go into the trip in much detail because for the most part it didn't make any sense. It wasn't a total loss of reality, more a total loss of self. But then there was so much more that I can't describe. It was my first time though, so I'm going to need to do it again too see how things play out.
Does anyone know much about tolerance?
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:21 pm
by crackf
if we did it again should we take it up a notch, im more intrigued about changing the environment, but if i only took one would the effects be weaker then the last trip?
pretty happy they wernt dud tabs for a first time aswell
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:23 pm
by gwa
hackman wrote:yeah you need the stars
stars starting turning to fireworks and shit
good luck ever seeing the stars in london though
that was fucking intense
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:30 pm
by hackman
lol the plane
Re: EGO DEATH
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:34 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
nicenice wrote:Its why I say verging.
I can't go into the trip in much detail because for the most part it didn't make any sense. It wasn't a total loss of reality, more a total loss of self. But then there was so much more that I can't describe. It was my first time though, so I'm going to need to do it again too see how things play out.