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Nah... I was raised around weed my whole life and because of it was a little reactionary when I was a kid, so started out on relatively much harder drugs (LSD & speed mostly, w/ E coming in later on.) I wound up gravitating towards cannabis later on after puberty was over, because the way it affected me as a teen and how it affects me as an adult are different. Haven't done any other substances in many, many years (probably over 10 years since last experience with E, more since last acid trip.)

What's funny/interesting/sad is that lots of people consume or otherwise catch effects from things for the sole purpose of modifying consciousness or performance - whether it's coffee, Bach, yoga, running, chocolate, religion, sex, or drugs - but they assume that the effects they're after or have experienced are the same effects others are after or experience, which is not true at all. The devil's in the details as they say.

qwaycee_ wrote:clonazepam anyone? that shit is baaaaaaaaaaaad. especially when consuming with alcohol which obviously you are not supposed to do.


baaaad experiences.

Mixing benzos with alcohol is always a stupid idea. The memory loss and stupid shit you do on massive doses of valium are bad enough, but combined with alcohol seem to massively enhance the effects. A 17 year old kid I know fairly well took a bollock load of valium, got drunk as fuck, went to the local corner shop, hit the cashier with a bat, slashed him in the throat (sliced, not stabbed) then tried nicking the cash register. When he couldn't pick it up, he went and sat outside the shop talking to the local kids saying how it was a waste of time because the cash register was too heavy. He's usually a quiet kid, loves his drugs, never been in a fight in his life or broke the law besides drug usage. He's in some youth offender ting for like 2 years now.
Mixing drugs isn't always good. I've never known why people mix ket with alcohol. Ket fucks me up enough as it is, I don't like the whole mixing two stupidly strong depressants with eachother.

pikeymobile wrote:

qwaycee_ wrote:clonazepam anyone? that shit is baaaaaaaaaaaad. especially when consuming with alcohol which obviously you are not supposed to do.


baaaad experiences.

Mixing benzos with alcohol is always a stupid idea. The memory loss and stupid shit you do on massive doses of valium are bad enough, but combined with alcohol seem to massively enhance the effects. A 17 year old kid I know fairly well took a bollock load of valium, got drunk as fuck, went to the local corner shop, hit the cashier with a bat, slashed him in the throat (sliced, not stabbed) then tried nicking the cash register. When he couldn't pick it up, he went and sat outside the shop talking to the local kids saying how it was a waste of time because the cash register was too heavy. He's usually a quiet kid, loves his drugs, never been in a fight in his life or broke the law besides drug usage. He's in some youth offender ting for like 2 years now.
Mixing drugs isn't always good. I've never known why people mix ket with alcohol. Ket fucks me up enough as it is, I don't like the whole mixing two stupidly strong depressants with eachother.

Was actually just texting someone telling them about the effects of takin blues with booze. Said its great fun, mellows you out nicely but can get a bit wobbly.

And then I read that. Fuckin hell!

How much valium and booze did he consume? Kinda worrying

oxys beer and biftas


all these other rugs r filth

indeed a non-toxic substance such as lsd is filth compared to the angelic purity of oxycontin and beer.

Random Eyez wrote: Was actually just texting someone telling them about the effects of takin blues with booze. Said its great fun, mellows you out nicely but can get a bit wobbly.

And then I read that. Fuckin hell!

How much valium and booze did he consume? Kinda worrying

yeah bad advice tbh, it can be a really euphoric confident high together but there really is no safe limit. I've had trace amounts of valium in my system from a previous day (It has a colossal half-life of 128 hours) and went out drinking, I felt as though I'd been spiked after many drinks later. Lost my phone, lost my wallet, somehow staggered home with fucked vision and fell immediately to sleep once i was half in my flat.

YOU CAN get away with small amounts of each, but high volumes of either (i.e 10mg valium + fuckload of drink or load of valium + a couple drinks) will lead to disaster.

That might be valuable advice.

Had a couple of weekends recently takin blues with a bevvy and never really thought of the risks. One night a few of us had about 7 or 8 (can't be sure, hazy memory!) and to be honest it felt great at the time but the whole weekend just flew by, total blur. Makes sense now knowing the half life.

Random Eyez wrote:

pikeymobile wrote:

qwaycee_ wrote:clonazepam anyone? that shit is baaaaaaaaaaaad. especially when consuming with alcohol which obviously you are not supposed to do.


baaaad experiences.

Mixing benzos with alcohol is always a stupid idea. The memory loss and stupid shit you do on massive doses of valium are bad enough, but combined with alcohol seem to massively enhance the effects. A 17 year old kid I know fairly well took a bollock load of valium, got drunk as fuck, went to the local corner shop, hit the cashier with a bat, slashed him in the throat (sliced, not stabbed) then tried nicking the cash register. When he couldn't pick it up, he went and sat outside the shop talking to the local kids saying how it was a waste of time because the cash register was too heavy. He's usually a quiet kid, loves his drugs, never been in a fight in his life or broke the law besides drug usage. He's in some youth offender ting for like 2 years now.
Mixing drugs isn't always good. I've never known why people mix ket with alcohol. Ket fucks me up enough as it is, I don't like the whole mixing two stupidly strong depressants with eachother.

Was actually just texting someone telling them about the effects of takin blues with booze. Said its great fun, mellows you out nicely but can get a bit wobbly.

And then I read that. Fuckin hell!

How much valium and booze did he consume? Kinda worrying

The kid was necking 25mg valium all day, god knows how many he took or how he could even walk. I've read an unbelievable amount of stories on bluelight involving mixing benzos and alcohol, almost all involving waking up 3 days later with no phone, wallet, money, covered in cuts and bruises with no memory of what went on.
Admittedly I've mixed the two quite a lot of times. 30mg of valium and a few beers in the house is all harmless fun, but like onelove said, the half life on the stuff is absolutely insane.
Speaking of half lifes, the worst is mirtazipine. Take 15mg, drop off to sleep in a spectacularly fun fashion, have incredible dreams, wake up 12 hours later then spend the next 2-3 days feeling like absolute shit.