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alphacat wrote:

jameshk wrote:Im confused about how we're allowed to manipulate stuff. Would I be allowed to sample stuff into the EXS24 and go from there?

Yes, provided all you're doing is rinsing the sounds w/ the sampler and not doing granular re-synthesis or something.

DSF SAMPLE PACK COMPETITION-30 Rules wrote:
COMPETITION RULES AND GUIDELINES

*CREATE A TRACK WITH ONLY THE SAMPLES PROVIDED

*USE ANY EFFECTS OR SOUND PROCESSING TO YOUR ADVANTAGE (CUT/SLICE/EDIT ETC.) DO NOT BUILD OR MAKE YOUR SOUNDS USING SYNTHS

*TRACK DURATION MUST BE LESS THAN 5 MINUTES FOR SUBMISSION, TRACKS EXCEEDING THIS TIME LIMIT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED

*ANY GENRE OR STYLE OF MUSIC IS ACCEPTED

*DO NOT POST YOUR TRACK BEFORE SUBMISSION OR REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF YOURSELF OR OTHER PRODUCERS

*WHEN FINISHED, UPLOAD YOUR TRACK, PROVIDE A TITLE, THEN SEND THE TRACK TO HAACK VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE WITH THE DOWNLOAD LINK

*COMPETITION DURATION: MONDAY MARCH 28TH - MONDAY APRIL 25TH 12PM (PST)

And be prepared to show how you made any given sound if someone suspects you synthesized or got the sound elsewhere.

Christ, dude. Pay attention.

hudson wrote:

alphacat wrote:

jameshk wrote:Im confused about how we're allowed to manipulate stuff. Would I be allowed to sample stuff into the EXS24 and go from there?

Yes, provided all you're doing is rinsing the sounds w/ the sampler and not doing granular re-synthesis or something.

DSF SAMPLE PACK COMPETITION-30 Rules wrote:
COMPETITION RULES AND GUIDELINES

*CREATE A TRACK WITH ONLY THE SAMPLES PROVIDED

*USE ANY EFFECTS OR SOUND PROCESSING TO YOUR ADVANTAGE (CUT/SLICE/EDIT ETC.) DO NOT BUILD OR MAKE YOUR SOUNDS USING SYNTHS

*TRACK DURATION MUST BE LESS THAN 5 MINUTES FOR SUBMISSION, TRACKS EXCEEDING THIS TIME LIMIT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED

*ANY GENRE OR STYLE OF MUSIC IS ACCEPTED

*DO NOT POST YOUR TRACK BEFORE SUBMISSION OR REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF YOURSELF OR OTHER PRODUCERS

*WHEN FINISHED, UPLOAD YOUR TRACK, PROVIDE A TITLE, THEN SEND THE TRACK TO HAACK VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE WITH THE DOWNLOAD LINK

*COMPETITION DURATION: MONDAY MARCH 28TH - MONDAY APRIL 25TH 12PM (PST)

And be prepared to show how you made any given sound if someone suspects you synthesized or got the sound elsewhere.

Christ, dude. Pay attention.

oh. well i thought i looked through everything. and i mainly did my editing in audacity and then put FX on in fl studio, so im good

Is anyone else getting restless with their finished tunes?

hudson wrote:Is anyone else getting restless with their finished tunes?

oh ya

what is granular re-synthesis?

nashley wrote:what is granular re-synthesis?

im guessing that its just using a granulizer. but i dont know for sure.

Granular synthesis (or in this case re-synthesis) is where you take a little snippet of a waveform and use it as a synthesizer would, but instead of selecting the built-in defaults (like sine, saw, square, noise, etc) it uses the snippet.

A̶n̶d̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶o̶r̶d̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶d̶e̶a̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶a̶c̶h̶e̶d̶ ̶W̶A̶A̶A̶A̶A̶A̶A̶A̶A̶Y̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶n̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶e̶a̶t̶e̶d̶l̶y̶.̶ ̶N̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶o̶v̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶.̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̶:̶l̶o̶l̶:̶ ̶ ̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶l̶e̶m̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶m̶e̶t̶h̶o̶d̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶v̶i̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶p̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶m̶o̶o̶t̶:̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶l̶o̶o̶k̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶e̶n̶o̶u̶g̶h̶,̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶l̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶w̶a̶v̶e̶s̶h̶a̶p̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶i̶v̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶i̶e̶c̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶u̶d̶i̶o̶.̶ ̶ ̶T̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶e̶c̶h̶a̶n̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶p̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶c̶l̶i̶p̶s̶:̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶l̶i̶p̶s̶,̶ ̶c̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶m̶a̶l̶l̶e̶r̶ ̶p̶i̶e̶c̶e̶s̶,̶ ̶p̶a̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶,̶ ̶m̶a̶s̶h̶ ̶s̶e̶v̶e̶r̶a̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶f̶i̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶i̶p̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶-̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶n̶d̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶l̶o̶o̶k̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶a̶y̶ ̶"̶W̶o̶w̶!̶ ̶I̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶[̶i̶]̶I̶S̶ ̶[̶/̶i̶]̶m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶p̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶c̶l̶i̶p̶s̶!̶"̶ ̶.̶.̶.̶A̶s̶ ̶o̶p̶p̶o̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶o̶t̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶c̶l̶i̶p̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶m̶e̶l̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶a̶w̶ ̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶o̶l̶d̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶e̶v̶e̶r̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶d̶e̶a̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶h̶,̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶g̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶p̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶h̶a̶p̶e̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶m̶e̶l̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶l̶e̶t̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶a̶b̶r̶i̶c̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶s̶c̶r̶a̶t̶c̶h̶.̶ ̶D̶i̶g̶?̶ ̶A̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶,̶ ̶b̶e̶a̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶o̶u̶n̶d̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶r̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶u̶s̶.̶

On that note, I've gone through 7 different preliminary versions of this fucking song so far and am about to give up. I have no idea why this one's being so problematic for me.


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EDIT:

Thinking about this in the shower this morning... (don't ask) -

Although the above about granular [re]synthesis made perfect sense when I wrote it, it dawned on me that most all of the basslines we're gonna come up with from that 808 waveform will be - essentially - used in a granular fashion, even if it's fairly limited in implementation for most of us (restricted to a pretty narrow frequency domain more or less.)

And there are no rules against using, say, Alchemy if you own it - which does bigtime granular hoohaa out the ass.

So on second thought...

I'm going to retract what I said above and STFU for once and let somebody else mouth off.

Was that post above supposed to be in some sort of alien code? Cause that's what I see... Alien Code... Every letter has a box in between it and the next letter...

EDIT: Just realised it was my pc at work

Anyway, I got a nice, warm bassline out of that 808 sample... All I need is some saxamaphone now, but doesn't look like that's gonna happen

unwind wrote:Was that post above supposed to be in some sort of alien code? Cause that's what I see... Alien Code... Every letter has a box in between it and the next letter...

Don't use cracks

so say for instance someone looped the fuck out of sample and dropped the pitch way down, would this be considered re-synthesis. Sorry Im a little new

nashley wrote:so say for instance someone looped the fuck out of sample and dropped the pitch way down, would this be considered re-synthesis. Sorry Im a little new

pretty much. A lot of timestretching algorithms actually use resynthesis as a way to create artifact free timestretches - they look for portions of the sound that can be looped (usually pitched sections) and stretch those preferentially, trying to avoid the transients.

What you have said is like a very basic version of the above

On the other hand, granular synthesis will usually allow you to specify the length of the granule you use and various other parameters depending on the software you are using. If you do a very short loop in a sampler you are working, effectively, with a rudimentary form of granular synthesis. However what makes it really interesting is when you modulate the granule position (a bit like changing wavetable position), the original sample pitch and the granule size all at once. Instant crazy robot noises.

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Sent mine in

How did I miss this?? I'm IN.

kikaruu wrote:How did I miss this?? I'm IN.

I don't know how you missed it!! But it's over TODAY lol!

USE ANY EFFECTS OR SOUND PROCESSING TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

In other words, you can do anything you want to the samples provided...just no generating of your own sounds using synthesizers/use of your own samples
You can: Loop, Modulate, Timestretch, Reverse, FX, Glitch, Anything in Audacity/Goldwave/Any other audio editor, You Name IT!

Just thought I'd say that

EDIT: Oh. 12 PM. Not AM.

le facepalm.

jrisreal wrote:

kikaruu wrote:How did I miss this?? I'm IN.

I don't know how you missed it!! But it's over TODAY lol!

I have 2 hours left. *scrolls up and reads 12 PST* FLIIIIP I HAVE 1 HOUR LEFT And I have to get home!!

ARGTGRRHH

hopefully got in this one, lookin forward

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